PRR S1 & streamlined K4

[MopacBarrettTunnel]

Rogruth, the dark bronze color of the K4 was actually Tuscan Red pigment, with a little yellow and some gold flakes carefully mixed in to "warm up" the color, and give the finish a more pronounced polished metallic intensity.

Pennsy's 6-4-4-6 was built in the railroads' Altoona PA shops in 1939, and was kept close to home once finished, in anticipation of it's use as a NY World's Fair attraction.  It didn't assume assigned duties until after the close of the 1939 Fair, and was pulled from it's brief first period of activity to encore the Fair of 1940.  The rest of this engine's story is public record.......

[Joe Hohmann]

I read somewhere that the Loewy streamlined K4 was first painted tuscan, then, soon after, repainted brunswick. Only one of these was ever made. In 1940, 4 other streamlined K4's were made from a PRR in-house design, which, to myself, as well as others, looked more elegant than the Loewy version. These were assigned to the "Jeffersonian", and the "South Wind". Joe

[no27]

Try this web site:

 

http://www.crestlineprr.com/duplexexperimentals.html#s1 

[daveklepper]

I saw both the streamlined K4 and the S at the 1939-1940 New York Worlds Fare.   If my memory is correct, they both were the same deep dark Brunzwick Green as the GG-1, with the same color gold striping.

[Redwards]

Not sure if it's correct but in a post on another forum the S1 route to Flushing had been described as follows:

"running it up the Bel-Del, interchanging w/ the LHRR at Belvidere, then interchanging with the NH at Maybrook, crossing over the Hudson on the high bridge and then bringing it accross on the NY Connecting."

I wish John Crosby had been given the opportunity to fire the S1.  Would love to read the Big Engine version of "Last Chance".

--Reed 

[feltonhill]

Lot of new pix at that link, thanks for the reference. 

However, one small correction.  The third photo (Lowey standing on the front of a loco) is actually the streamlined K4, not the S1 before final modifications.  Prior to service, it always looked the same.

 There was a description of the route used, but I can't recall the source. IIRC, it was a round-about route through Maybrook to cross the Hudson, then south to the Fair site.  On the Long Island RR, some of the third rail guards had to be removed to clear parts of the S1.   If I can find the article, I'll post the source.

[Redwards]

I have only seen one color photo of the S1 in Don Ball's The Pennsylvania Railroad: 1940's - 1950'.  Not sure if it would help you much as I think it was a low angle shot of the nose as it was moving at speed.

There are some shots of the S1 from the World's Fair on this site:

http://www.peacethroughunderstanding.org/index.php?showtopic=4941&st=0 

-Reed

 

 

[jimrice4449]

Carefully, very carefully!

[rogruth]

What were  the colors and scheme used on the S1? Are any color photos available?

My uncle,a PRR man,told me that the streamlined K4 #3768 was a dark bronze color. Several models have been made of this loco but none seem to be the right color. Are there any color photos of this engine?

My uncle saw the S1 at the NY worlds fair in 1939. I know it was used between Chicago and Crestline but not further east. How did they get it to NY for the fair?