Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has.
Goodness......
No offense, but this seems cold and blunt, don't you think?
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Hmmmm. O.K, but it's a shame that for such an informative forum, a cold unwelcoming message like this title is posted. Especially considering that the TRAINS, MRR, CT, CTT forums are part of the same family.
This forum is devoted to Classic trains, however, as in all forums from time to time overlap topics will cross into the back and forth communications within the forum. It's pretty easy to reply to a "modeler's" question or comment and then steer the topic back onto Classic Trains or whichever forum the discussion is taking place in. I've seen this happen over on the TRAINS and MRR forums where members tactfully answer questions and kindly suggest that the poster check out the forum where the question/comment would receive greater responses. As train fans, we're supposedly friendly folks.
Again, no offense but it upset me when the news media recently claimed that
1. Americans are the rudest people on the planet.
2. Most railfans and model railroaders are supposedly weird and strange.
Guys at age 43 as a diehard railfan and modeler I totally disagree with that view, however imho, threads like this seem to give credence to the wacko media's claims.
Peace out.
I suppose a nicer way to put it would be '12 inch to the foot scale only', but that might not be P.C. for countries where metric is used.
Don't worry, I'm not into Political Correctness which is why I despise media outlets, such as CNN. I do a pretty good job of ticking off liberals on my job. (They're nice people but sheesh! These guys and ladies so sensitive about everything involving ethics, child rearing, discipline, etc.,).
UP829,
[12" to the scale foot......]
Now that's creative!
Who will moving posts about Toy Trains and Model Railroads into the other forums?
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Good idea Andrew, just move the post to the proper forum. We would need some proactive moderation for that.
Ed
Andrew Falconer wrote: Who will moving posts about Toy Trains and Model Railroads into the other forums?Andrew
Wally,
Please don't take my comments negatively. No, you're not weird. You have intelligent, very in-depth posts on other threads. Especially on the TRAINS forum. Your comments push people to think.
BTW: It's the "media" that says that "We" are weird. Your intentions are honorable, but I was simply pointing out to you how the title of this thread may be perceived, especially by new visitors. Nothing more.
Peace and High Greens to you.
It baffles me that this situation, which I think is easy to resolve, still exists. The banner at the top reading "General Discussion (Classic Trains)'" could easily carry the disclaimer that this is not a General Hobby Site but is along the lines of Classic Trains Magazine.
And it saddens me that no one in Kalmbach seems to be monitoring this forum as there have been many posts suggesting to posters that they would get better response in one of the hobby forums.
It's not user friendly to not alert would-be users that although they may consider Lionel, Ives, and Marx as 'Classic Trains', information about those manufacturers can be found in the "Classic Toy Trains' forum.
Art
artschlosser wrote: It baffles me that this situation, which I think is easy to resolve, still exists. The banner at the top reading "General Discussion (Classic Trains)'" could easily carry the disclaimer that this is not a General Hobby Site but is along the lines of Classic Trains Magazine.And it saddens me that no one in Kalmbach seems to be monitoring this forum as there have been many posts suggesting to posters that they would get better response in one of the hobby forums. It's not user friendly to not alert would-be users that although they may consider Lionel, Ives, and Marx as 'Classic Trains', information about those manufacturers can be found in the "Classic Toy Trains' forum.Art
First, Kalmbach is providing this forum at no cost to the users, and probably at little or no income to them. They do monitor it periodically, but it would make no business sense to have someone monitor it full time. They mainly police the content and break up some outright fights, but worrying about whether someone posted something that another poster thinks should be under a different heading makes even less sense.
Anyone with any manners would simply post that "you may have better luck posting this question under the Model Railroader Magazine heading." Most times, this faux pas is committed by new members, so a little simple guidance is more in order.
AntonioFP45 wrote: Hmmmm. O.K, but it's a shame that for such an informative forum, a cold unwelcoming message like this title is posted. Especially considering that the TRAINS, MRR, CT, CTT forums are part of the same family. This forum is devoted to Classic trains, however, as in all forums from time to time overlap topics will cross into the back and forth communications within the forum. It's pretty easy to reply to a "modeler's" question or comment and then steer the topic back onto Classic Trains or whichever forum the discussion is taking place in. I've seen this happen over on the TRAINS and MRR forums where members tactfully answer questions and kindly suggest that the poster check out the forum where the question/comment would receive greater responses. As train fans, we're supposedly friendly folks.Again, no offense but it upset me when the news media recently claimed that 1. Americans are the rudest people on the planet. 2. Most railfans and model railroaders are supposedly weird and strange. Guys at age 43 as a diehard railfan and modeler I totally disagree with that view, however imho, threads like this seem to give credence to the wacko media's claims.Peace out.
Very well said! Incidently....I do a pretty good job at ticking off conservatives on my job! What a balance we have here!!!!!
underworld
It wouldn't hurt to have such a notice someplace prominent, but it should not read the way it does...just my opinion. This idea should be flown past Bergie in an email, and if he agrees, he can concoct a short marquis, maybe one that moves to catch the eye, and do it on each forum.
FTR, I haven't noticed it was was big problem to begin with, but that's just me.
Oh, For cryin out loud, I read enough of this crap on other forums. And the one place that I thought would be clean of this type of stuff is cropping up here. Look, Im into "o" gauge Lionel, both pre and post war, now tell me please, is prewar stuff not a classic train? Of course it is, no ifs, ands, or buts about it in my book!
Why can't I post anything in the "Model Railroader" forum? Is not any scale train model railroading? Of course it is! Why is it only for 'HO" scale? Why must I only be limited to CTT? If this section is that important, then Classic Trains needs to change their name to impart that it is only for the REAL Large people/freight moving actual railroad and not just a generic phrase of classic trains. Which can be construded to be any old train, toy or otherwise.
To stubbsO: Your rant is halfway valid but these forums are named after the magazines thet Kalmbach publishes. I subscribed to four of them for awhile but finally dropped Model Railroader even though I'd been a subscriber since the late 40's. Still get TRAINS, Garden Railways, and Classic Trains, and buy an occasional Classic Toy Trains at the newstand. Never saw anything about Lionel or Marx in Classic Trains Magazine so posts about those manufacturers in this forum is a bit off base.
I think the name change of this thread was a nice touch; but zx I have directed several posters to better sites as have many others, I think your rant is, in my humble opinion, far worse than what has been posted here to date. It makes me wonder if you subscribe to Classic Trains and have you taken the time to suggest to those who posted here in error to post in a more logical forum?
Art.
wallyworld wrote:All the fretting about upsetting and creating anxiety on the communal apple cart can be laid to rest..I changed the wording...All those who had fears about alienating posters had no problem doing the same to me..when I was trying to get the attention of a moderator..and correct a very obvious confusion..if you have a problem with that..so be it.
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artschlosser wrote: To stubbsO: Your rant is halfway valid but these forums are named after the magazines thet Kalmbach publishes. I subscribed to four of them for awhile but finally dropped Model Railroader even though I'd been a subscriber since the late 40's. Still get TRAINS, Garden Railways, and Classic Trains, and buy an occasional Classic Toy Trains at the newstand. Never saw anything about Lionel or Marx in Classic Trains Magazine so posts about those manufacturers in this forum is a bit off base.I think the name change of this thread was a nice touch; but zx I have directed several posters to better sites as have many others, I think your rant is, in my humble opinion, far worse than what has been posted here to date. It makes me wonder if you subscribe to Classic Trains and have you taken the time to suggest to those who posted here in error to post in a more logical forum?Art.
I've only been following this board for about a month now, and mostly read the CTT section. However, there is other info that I pick up on certain things in the other forums, [like this one!] So then why should topics be in the section that it only applies to? For example, the topic about painting rivers and streams. That can apply to any scale, but it's only in one section, why? It should be listed in all sections! That's kinda the point of my rant.
Sorry for butting in like this my fellow Classic Trains readers. But do we really need it to say somewhere that this is for Classic Trains and not the best place to ask questions about modelrailroading? That you might have a better chance of getting the answer that you're looking for at MR, CTR or GR? I like HO scale as well, so I don't really mind something like this popping up every now and then, not at all. But if you look at the top of the page, you can see links to Trains.com, Model Railroader, Trains, Classic Toy Trains, Garden Railways AND Classic Trains. I know that it's easy to think that they don't work as links to respective(?) magazine, I just checked them out myself right now and behold....*laughs*....
Anyhoo, there must be quiet a few of us that's also into modelrailroading as well here...
Right, who wants the talkingstick now?
It’s not a big thing to me, but I think the poster may get a faster response if the model railroad question is posted to the MR, CTT, or GR forums. Perhaps if your not familiar with the Classic Trains Magazine content you might think that this forum is for Lionel and old style model railroad trains.
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stubbsO: I cut my teeth on Lionel, bought an American Flyer set and set it up at Navy Pier while in the Navy in '46. Got into HO in 47, added LGB (Large Scale) in '85, and worked as a telegrapher on a railroad from '47 to '52. Currently revamping an HO Varney 2-8-0 Consolidation and have a large scale track set up under my grand piano in the living room; try playing games on your hands and knees at some 79 plus years of age (keeps you young!).
I was one of the charter subscribers to the magazine this Forum is named after. If I want to learn something about Classic Trains, the time that I was a railroader, I log onto this site.
If I want to learn something about trains of today, I log onto the TRAINS forum, a magazine to which I also subscribe.
If i want to check out what large scale is doing, I log onto either MyLargeScale or the Garden Railway forum which is named after another magazine that I buy.
But if if the topic is Lionel, AF, or Marx I check out the Classic Toy Train forum and the Model Railroader forum for HO.
The typical repeat poster on this forum isn't looking for info on building bridges, rivers, or painting scenery. The 1:1 scale classic train era is the thrust of this forum. I don't need to waste what time I have left slogging through posts that weren't well thought out on subjects that are covered more completely by other forums.
But do we really need it to say somewhere that this is for Classic Trains and not the best place to ask questions about modelrailroading? That you might have a better chance of getting the answer that you're looking for at MR, CTR or GR?
Seems to me that it is quite obvious that with the number of posts here that could better find an answer to their question on another forum, the answer to the above question is...
Our education system is sorely lacking!
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Only the moderator can control where and what is posted. For that matter, albeit an extreme example is that one is free to post model trains on a Cryptozoology Forum, the only significant difference is A: You are likely to be directed elsewhere B: You chances of a helpful reply are less. C: It muddies an already broad generalization of topics allocated to specific forums.D: If everyone followed that example you would have to check four forums instead of one to find a thread you find interesting. If one wants to post a garden railroad question here....why not? But the larger question is why?
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