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Posted by underworld on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:33 PM
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In short. Tyco = no value, zip, zero, nada. You might get a heck of alot on ebay from a doofus who has a need to wave a bunch of money hitting the "Bid now" button like a reheus (Spelling) monkey trying to beat out other (PLural... deefuses?).

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:51 AM
Mantua was around for many years, back to I think 1926. The Mantua founder/president was named John Tyler (I think it was John?) and he formed TYCO (TYler COmpany) as a subsidiary of Mantua. Mantua made well respected steam locomotive kits in the fifties and later, Tyco offered the same engines RTR in trainsets and by themselves. They ran as well as most anything else did at the time, better than most brass engines which 35 years ago tended to look great but run very poorly. Their later diesels in the seventies weren't too hot, but probably weren't much below say Athearn at the same time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2007 9:05 PM

No, not the same company.  It seems strange that one of the companies didn't get upset about the name duplication.

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Posted by PBenham on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:16 PM
Is this Tyco the same Tyco that was looted by one of it's officers? (Kozlowski?)Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:00 PM

Tom is right about the New Jersey products.  In 1947 or '48, I bought a Mantua Mogul kit.  It is still running some 60 years later.  So are the Varney engines.  Didn't much care for the Mantua passenger car kits, though,  Varney was better.  After Mr. Tyler renamed Mantua Metal Products to Tyco, things seemed to go downhill.

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Posted by TomDiehl on Monday, January 29, 2007 3:06 PM
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 Now, I do feel kind of bad being harsh on tyco. I am not so old and rusted as not to remember the cherished and loved toy that somehow got lost. This Tyco set probably gave the person many hours of pleasure and should carry a value but I think its not a monetary value.

I have to admit being older, I remember the pre-1970's Tyco when they were made in New Jersey. They were gear driven when the Athearn's were rubber band drive. The old ones did (and still do on my layout) run good. Once Consolidated Foods took them over and moved the production overseas, the quality went downhill fast and they deserved the "40 hour" nickname they got.

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Posted by scottychaos on Monday, January 29, 2007 2:07 PM

Here is a complete "Golden Eagle" set that recently sold on Ebay for $33

http://tinyurl.com/35fyg8

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2007 1:33 PM
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They should be on the General Discussion for Model Railroader.

First off, sorry that you had a house fire.

Tyco is famous for throwaway engines with thier train sets. Despite recent Ebay madness on those items from people with more dollars than sense.....

To me those Tycos are only good for weathering practice. If it was me, they are worth sending to the trash can. I am being diplomatic here. If you went into my hundreds of posts you might find a tidbit or two regarding my SoapBox [soapbox] Censored [censored] regarding Tyco Trains.

Tycos were designed to fail after a short time when Christmas is finished and to be replaced with another product by those who dont know about Hobby Stores, Athearn, Riverossi etc. I think they were truly throw-away trains in a time where Brass and very good quality trains ruled the earth.

In short. Tyco = no value, zip, zero, nada. You might get a heck of alot on ebay from a doofus who has a need to wave a bunch of money hitting the "Bid now" button like a reheus (Spelling) monkey trying to beat out other (PLural... deefuses?).

But you DEFINATELY don't want to tell the insurance adjuster that, because it's exactly what you'll get, nothing. Since you were using them, and they still worked, plus the fact that they were in the original boxes, they do have value. Whether they were made with the intention of being "throwaways" or not is not relevent to the value of replacing them.

As others have suggested, search Ebay for similar items and see what they're selling for. This should be sufficient to establish a value that the insurance company will pay, depending on how your policy is written.

Oh no, I wont be telling the Insurance Adjuster that.

Suppose this insurance adjuster happens to be in the business of insuring Model Trains? They will probably have a good chance knowing the value.

Now, I do feel kind of bad being harsh on tyco. I am not so old and rusted as not to remember the cherished and loved toy that somehow got lost. This Tyco set probably gave the person many hours of pleasure and should carry a value but I think its not a monetary value.

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Posted by TomDiehl on Monday, January 29, 2007 12:46 PM
 Safety Valve wrote:

They should be on the General Discussion for Model Railroader.

First off, sorry that you had a house fire.

Tyco is famous for throwaway engines with thier train sets. Despite recent Ebay madness on those items from people with more dollars than sense.....

To me those Tycos are only good for weathering practice. If it was me, they are worth sending to the trash can. I am being diplomatic here. If you went into my hundreds of posts you might find a tidbit or two regarding my SoapBox [soapbox] Censored [censored] regarding Tyco Trains.

Tycos were designed to fail after a short time when Christmas is finished and to be replaced with another product by those who dont know about Hobby Stores, Athearn, Riverossi etc. I think they were truly throw-away trains in a time where Brass and very good quality trains ruled the earth.

In short. Tyco = no value, zip, zero, nada. You might get a heck of alot on ebay from a doofus who has a need to wave a bunch of money hitting the "Bid now" button like a reheus (Spelling) monkey trying to beat out other (PLural... deefuses?).

But you DEFINATELY don't want to tell the insurance adjuster that, because it's exactly what you'll get, nothing. Since you were using them, and they still worked, plus the fact that they were in the original boxes, they do have value. Whether they were made with the intention of being "throwaways" or not is not relevent to the value of replacing them.

As others have suggested, search Ebay for similar items and see what they're selling for. This should be sufficient to establish a value that the insurance company will pay, depending on how your policy is written.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2007 11:52 AM

They should be on the General Discussion for Model Railroader.

First off, sorry that you had a house fire.

Tyco is famous for throwaway engines with thier train sets. Despite recent Ebay madness on those items from people with more dollars than sense.....

To me those Tycos are only good for weathering practice. If it was me, they are worth sending to the trash can. I am being diplomatic here. If you went into my hundreds of posts you might find a tidbit or two regarding my SoapBox [soapbox] Censored [censored] regarding Tyco Trains.

Tycos were designed to fail after a short time when Christmas is finished and to be replaced with another product by those who dont know about Hobby Stores, Athearn, Riverossi etc. I think they were truly throw-away trains in a time where Brass and very good quality trains ruled the earth.

In short. Tyco = no value, zip, zero, nada. You might get a heck of alot on ebay from a doofus who has a need to wave a bunch of money hitting the "Bid now" button like a reheus (Spelling) monkey trying to beat out other (PLural... deefuses?).

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, January 29, 2007 10:29 AM
Well first, you probably meant to post this in the Classic Toy Trains forum, this is Classic (real) Trains. I would try asking there, or over on the Model Railroader forum. I don't know if anyone has ever published a book on Tyco collecting and worth, maybe just try searching on ebay and see what similar items are selling for??
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2007 9:57 AM
I resently had a house fire and need some help with pricing.I had two tyco train sets from when I was a boy back in the 1970's. I had a super road & rail #9000 I kept it in the origanel boxes when I was not playing with it. I also had a golden eagle #7328 That I also kept in the boxes when I was not playing with it. Is there any one that can help me with the prices? everyone I have e-mailed has not replied or has told me they are not worth anything.please help

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