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Golden State Sleepers On The Admiral.

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Golden State Sleepers On The Admiral.
Posted by wallyworld on Friday, October 6, 2006 11:06 AM
I was surprised to find that the PRR forwarded RI Golden State sleepers on The Admiral..I wondered if there was any resource or compendium that lists which road forwarded another's sleepers by route or train number?

Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has.

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Posted by jimrice4449 on Friday, October 6, 2006 11:01 PM

The Official Guide has listings ahead of the timetables for each RR showing the eqipment for each train.   These will generally show the type of accomodations for Pullmans, lounge cars and diners.   The only down side to using these is that they generally just list "coaches" w/o specifying how many and there's no mention of head end cars.

On the PRR pages some trains list cars off of CNW train so and so from San Francisco for even numbered days and car of of CB&Q from San Francisco on odd numbered days.   It's really a facinating volume for psgr train freaks (of which I am decidedly one) and they're available for various years from dealers specializing in timetables and such.   Of course, the farther back you go the higher to price tends to be but somebody brought out a reprint of the August 1945issue a while back they might still be available.   Check the adds in TRAINS.

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Posted by jimrice4449 on Friday, October 6, 2006 11:11 PM
Another use of this data is to identify a perticular train w/ an "off road" car in the consist.   I have a commercially produced video that shows a PRR train E/bound at Englewood w/ a pre-WWII stainless steel Pulman in the otherwise all 1937 Lowey color scheme.   The train had a coach, which rulled out the General and a 12 duplex room sleeper.   A perusal of the above mentioned equipment lists revealed that the only PRR train having that combination of car types to be,VOILA!, the Admiral.   Ther are other videos showing westbound trains on Horseshoe Curve W/ red and silver Golden State cars that could also be identified this way.
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Posted by timz on Saturday, October 7, 2006 7:34 PM
Keep your eyes on eBay (search for "Official Guide" under Railroadiana under Collectibles) and you'll get a circa-1950 Guide for $10-15 in a month or two.

Transcon thru sleepers started in 1946; as I recall the Broadway never carried any except the ones from the Santa Fe. (Or maybe it started getting UP cars after January 1954?)

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