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Posted by ironhorseman on Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:33 PM
I like visiting train stations as much as I like standing by the tracks watching trains or model railroading. I've seen all this talk lately about missed and favorite fallen flags and was just wondering what station(s) you miss most that have either been demolished or converted to some other use.

I would choose Pennsylvania Station because I never saw it. It was demolished before I was born. In fact, I've never been to Pennsylvania. I have heard so much about it and seen all kinds of pictures in books, magazines, and videos.

Wichita, KS lost a gem when the victorian-style Missouri Pacific depot was demolished to make way for the architecturaly inferior Garvey Plaza, a collection of office buildings and hotel. The depot was demolished in the 1960s. Had it survived it would have made it onto the National Register of Historic Places.

Feel free to include the little small town depots, too, and any experiences and memories you have. The station's I listed in the poll where one's that I could think of off the top of my head with out looking in a book with the exception of the Chicago stations (I used TRAINS Magazine).

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Grand Stations To Little Depots
Posted by ironhorseman on Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:33 PM
I like visiting train stations as much as I like standing by the tracks watching trains or model railroading. I've seen all this talk lately about missed and favorite fallen flags and was just wondering what station(s) you miss most that have either been demolished or converted to some other use.

I would choose Pennsylvania Station because I never saw it. It was demolished before I was born. In fact, I've never been to Pennsylvania. I have heard so much about it and seen all kinds of pictures in books, magazines, and videos.

Wichita, KS lost a gem when the victorian-style Missouri Pacific depot was demolished to make way for the architecturaly inferior Garvey Plaza, a collection of office buildings and hotel. The depot was demolished in the 1960s. Had it survived it would have made it onto the National Register of Historic Places.

Feel free to include the little small town depots, too, and any experiences and memories you have. The station's I listed in the poll where one's that I could think of off the top of my head with out looking in a book with the exception of the Chicago stations (I used TRAINS Magazine).

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:11 PM
I was around when Penn Station was used, and I was in it a few times. One man I knew was head of security there and took me and my wife there to see some things you do not think about when you are running for a train. They should never have torn down the old station and built this new one. Now they are up-grading it to handle long island and excella trains. They have to re-do the tunnels from N.J and maybe add new tubes to keep up with increased commuter lines. I like small stations too. Would like to get dimensions for and photos of Erie and Erie-Lackawanna stations from Hoboken to Spring Valley N.Y as I lived on that line. (no, next to that line) Bernt T. Fla.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:11 PM
I was around when Penn Station was used, and I was in it a few times. One man I knew was head of security there and took me and my wife there to see some things you do not think about when you are running for a train. They should never have torn down the old station and built this new one. Now they are up-grading it to handle long island and excella trains. They have to re-do the tunnels from N.J and maybe add new tubes to keep up with increased commuter lines. I like small stations too. Would like to get dimensions for and photos of Erie and Erie-Lackawanna stations from Hoboken to Spring Valley N.Y as I lived on that line. (no, next to that line) Bernt T. Fla.
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Posted by northwesterner on Monday, July 14, 2003 3:49 PM
I grew up on the western suburbs, and as a kid would go into Chicago with my parents on the C&NW commuter trains (and occasionally the Kate Shelly 400) and visit my grandparents on The City of New Orleans (and once on the Panama Limited).
I didn't know Chicago Grand Central even existed until after it was torn down. Tuhs that's my pick.
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Posted by northwesterner on Monday, July 14, 2003 3:49 PM
I grew up on the western suburbs, and as a kid would go into Chicago with my parents on the C&NW commuter trains (and occasionally the Kate Shelly 400) and visit my grandparents on The City of New Orleans (and once on the Panama Limited).
I didn't know Chicago Grand Central even existed until after it was torn down. Tuhs that's my pick.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:12 PM
NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO VISIT A BIG TIME TERMINAL ONLY THE SMALL STATIONS ALONG THE LINE. WOULD HAVE LOVE TO SEEN AND VISIT ONE DURING THEIR HEYDAYS. NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO TAKE THE TRAIN SERVICE OUT OF THE STATE I LIVE IN.MAYBE IF AMTRACK IS STILL AROUND I WILL LIKE TO THE TRAIN OUT OF STATE.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:12 PM
NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO VISIT A BIG TIME TERMINAL ONLY THE SMALL STATIONS ALONG THE LINE. WOULD HAVE LOVE TO SEEN AND VISIT ONE DURING THEIR HEYDAYS. NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO TAKE THE TRAIN SERVICE OUT OF THE STATE I LIVE IN.MAYBE IF AMTRACK IS STILL AROUND I WILL LIKE TO THE TRAIN OUT OF STATE.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:25 PM
I voted for Pennsylvania Station by default. Never was there, nor at Grand Central, but feel as though I've been to Grand Central after seeing countless movies over the years. As for the Chicago terminals listed, there were just too many to choose from so . . . Pennsy by default.
I remember both the Portland and L.A. Union stations in their primes (or pretty close to their primes) and treasure those memories. There was just something undefinable special in being a small kid aboard the Daylight steaming into L.A. at twilight, watching the parade of Santa Fe and UP consists working their various ways into and out of the terminal simultaneously; likewise, you could pass the time at Portland waiting for your train to leave watching UP and SP&S put on their show alongside SP.
The terminal I'd really like to revisit, though? San Francisco's 3rd & Townsend. Small, compared to the others, and it only served Southern Pacific, but what a place in its heyday! A steady stream of commute trains up and down the Peninsula, the Daylights, the Lark and the Starlight . . . a lot of hustle and bustle and pure railroad atmosphere in that funny little mission gothic-styled terminal, right down to the flagmen in their sheds at 4th Street popping out to stop traffic every five minutes at some parts of the day. Good stuff, great memories.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:25 PM
I voted for Pennsylvania Station by default. Never was there, nor at Grand Central, but feel as though I've been to Grand Central after seeing countless movies over the years. As for the Chicago terminals listed, there were just too many to choose from so . . . Pennsy by default.
I remember both the Portland and L.A. Union stations in their primes (or pretty close to their primes) and treasure those memories. There was just something undefinable special in being a small kid aboard the Daylight steaming into L.A. at twilight, watching the parade of Santa Fe and UP consists working their various ways into and out of the terminal simultaneously; likewise, you could pass the time at Portland waiting for your train to leave watching UP and SP&S put on their show alongside SP.
The terminal I'd really like to revisit, though? San Francisco's 3rd & Townsend. Small, compared to the others, and it only served Southern Pacific, but what a place in its heyday! A steady stream of commute trains up and down the Peninsula, the Daylights, the Lark and the Starlight . . . a lot of hustle and bustle and pure railroad atmosphere in that funny little mission gothic-styled terminal, right down to the flagmen in their sheds at 4th Street popping out to stop traffic every five minutes at some parts of the day. Good stuff, great memories.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:53 PM
Err... is that Portland Oregon, or Maine? I visited the one in Maine in 1954. Dismal place!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:53 PM
Err... is that Portland Oregon, or Maine? I visited the one in Maine in 1954. Dismal place!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nkloudon

Err... is that Portland Oregon, or Maine? I visited the one in Maine in 1954. Dismal place!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nkloudon

Err... is that Portland Oregon, or Maine? I visited the one in Maine in 1954. Dismal place!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:08 PM
To Kent Loudon:

Was Portland, Maine's Union Station really dismal? I was born in 1960 the year most passenger train service ended in Maine except for the mediocre B&M RDC's to Boston which were discontinued in 1965. My mother would tell me of taking the train from Portland to Newport to visit family with my older brother and sister in tow and how much fun it was to take the train. I know passenger service declined quickly in Maine after the war and could not compete with the automobile, but I've always heard how beautiful the station was and what a shame that they tore it down in 1961. I feel I was born too late as I missed the golden age of passenger trains in the US, but maybe that day will come again.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:08 PM
To Kent Loudon:

Was Portland, Maine's Union Station really dismal? I was born in 1960 the year most passenger train service ended in Maine except for the mediocre B&M RDC's to Boston which were discontinued in 1965. My mother would tell me of taking the train from Portland to Newport to visit family with my older brother and sister in tow and how much fun it was to take the train. I know passenger service declined quickly in Maine after the war and could not compete with the automobile, but I've always heard how beautiful the station was and what a shame that they tore it down in 1961. I feel I was born too late as I missed the golden age of passenger trains in the US, but maybe that day will come again.
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Posted by ironhorseman on Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:01 PM
to Kent:

I meant it to be Portland, Ore. I'll see if I can correct it. But thanks for your input.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:01 PM
to Kent:

I meant it to be Portland, Ore. I'll see if I can correct it. But thanks for your input.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:47 PM
I sense there is a little anti-Santa Fe running loose here. Yes, the Dearborn station is listed, as is Kansas City, but what about Albuquerque, and San Diego, and San Bernadino, and LAUPT, plus all those smaller stations across Texas and the plains states.

My personal preference is Albuquerque. It was more than a Depot, it was more than a Station, it was the center of a financial, recreational, commercial complex that reached further than just getting people on and off trains. It was certainly a loss when it burned down a few years ago. I just hope the replacement which should be finished by now, does it justice.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:47 PM
I sense there is a little anti-Santa Fe running loose here. Yes, the Dearborn station is listed, as is Kansas City, but what about Albuquerque, and San Diego, and San Bernadino, and LAUPT, plus all those smaller stations across Texas and the plains states.

My personal preference is Albuquerque. It was more than a Depot, it was more than a Station, it was the center of a financial, recreational, commercial complex that reached further than just getting people on and off trains. It was certainly a loss when it burned down a few years ago. I just hope the replacement which should be finished by now, does it justice.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:34 PM
Hello Don,

Thank you for your input. I'm glad you mentioned those. Those are unknown to me, however. The poll was to reflect as many stations as I could think of (plus I was only limited to list 15).

It was my opinion that the ones I put in the poll would probably be the most recognized across the continent. I think we all dream a little of seeing in person something we've only read about or seen in books and magazines. Maybe you could help put up a second list of stations.

I'd also be interested what stations Canadians consider landmarks or most popular, since I don't much about Canada it would be interesting to find out.

Also if anybody on any other continent has a story to tell I'd be glad to hear it, too.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:34 PM
Hello Don,

Thank you for your input. I'm glad you mentioned those. Those are unknown to me, however. The poll was to reflect as many stations as I could think of (plus I was only limited to list 15).

It was my opinion that the ones I put in the poll would probably be the most recognized across the continent. I think we all dream a little of seeing in person something we've only read about or seen in books and magazines. Maybe you could help put up a second list of stations.

I'd also be interested what stations Canadians consider landmarks or most popular, since I don't much about Canada it would be interesting to find out.

Also if anybody on any other continent has a story to tell I'd be glad to hear it, too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 11:26 PM
Just a reminder to all those voting for NY Penn or Grand Central. In these "Temples to Transportation", you couldn't see the trains from the concourse!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 25, 2003 11:26 PM
Just a reminder to all those voting for NY Penn or Grand Central. In these "Temples to Transportation", you couldn't see the trains from the concourse!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nkloudon

Just a reminder to all those voting for NY Penn or Grand Central. In these "Temples to Transportation", you couldn't see the trains from the concourse!

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Nor could you from approximately nine-tenths of LAUPT. No matter; you could sense them!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nkloudon

Just a reminder to all those voting for NY Penn or Grand Central. In these "Temples to Transportation", you couldn't see the trains from the concourse!

-Kent Loudon

Nor could you from approximately nine-tenths of LAUPT. No matter; you could sense them!
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Posted by kevin1052 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:17 PM
As I have worked at Penn Station NY and seen some of the older areas that still exist, not to the public though, I would have liked to seen it in its heyday. My heart still belongs to the little stations however. Some of my fondest memories are working as an Agent/Operator at these stations.
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Posted by kevin1052 on Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:17 PM
As I have worked at Penn Station NY and seen some of the older areas that still exist, not to the public though, I would have liked to seen it in its heyday. My heart still belongs to the little stations however. Some of my fondest memories are working as an Agent/Operator at these stations.
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Posted by jimmac230 on Monday, July 28, 2003 8:50 PM
Never have seen the grand stations of the east, I am accustomed to the small ATSF stations here in Oklahoma and Kansas, some that are still here and some that have long gone away. The smallest being the old Santa Fe Hulah station since been moved to Bartlesville Oklahoma and restored
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Posted by jimmac230 on Monday, July 28, 2003 8:50 PM
Never have seen the grand stations of the east, I am accustomed to the small ATSF stations here in Oklahoma and Kansas, some that are still here and some that have long gone away. The smallest being the old Santa Fe Hulah station since been moved to Bartlesville Oklahoma and restored

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