Hey everyone! Sara T sent me this film of some German steam operations late in their era, steam's still hanging on but the diesels are on the way. One glorious last hurrah.
The film quality's excellent and the photography's superb! I think you'll all like it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYVJPEYbE08
I visited the area in January 1974, when one of the class 38 4-6-0s and one of the class 78 4-6-4s were still working. I'm sure I stood on the bridge in one of the closing scenes and photograhed one of the steam passenger trains.
I was a little disappointed when visiting Rottweil not to see one of the dogs named after the town....
If you look closely in the initial scene of the freight departing behind the class 44 2-10-0, both the 4-6-0 and the 4-6-4T are visible.
Peter
M636CI was a little disappointed when visiting Rottweil not to see one of the dogs named after the town....
Look at it this way, there's no town in Germany named "Dachshund."
Treu. Mom's maiden name was Bischof and supposedly we're German. But, Bischofshaven is in Austria. So, am I ein Deutscher or einen Osterricher?
Same me, different spelling!
pennytrains Treu. Mom's maiden name was Bischof and supposedly we're German. But, Bischofshaven is in Austria. So, am I ein Deutscher or einen Osterricher?
Good question. Considering how borders got shifted around in the old days when the European upper-classes played the "Sport of Kings" anything's possible.
Flintlock76 M636C I was a little disappointed when visiting Rottweil not to see one of the dogs named after the town.... Look at it this way, there's no town in Germany named "Dachshund."
M636C I was a little disappointed when visiting Rottweil not to see one of the dogs named after the town....
But I saw an Alsatian in Strasbourg....
I'm a big fan of "roof dogs" although they have lots of sharp edges when they sit in your lap.
Pennytrains: "Mom's maiden name was Bischof and supposedly we're German. But, Bischofshaven is in Austria. So, am I ein Deutscher or einen Osterricher? "
I'd say you're a German (-American) whose people came from what is now Austria. Before the war, Germans lived in communities all over Central and Eastern Europe. If my German-speaking ancestors came from what is now Serbia or Ukraine I wouldn't think of my heritage as being from those two countries; I'd say I was German. I think of Germans as a people first, the vast majority of whom live in Germany. But many other German-speakers live in Austria, Switzerland, etc.
Another way you could look at your question: Who controlled the area your people are from in 1914? Were they under the Hapsburg or Hohenzollern monarchs?
Similarly, the Rusyns, or Carpatho-Rusyns, lived on both sides of the Carpathian Mountains in what is now Poland, Slovakia, and Ukraine. Not as numerous as their neighbors, they never had a sovereign or state of their own. They speak a western dialect of the Ukrainian language. They wouldn't consider themselves Poles or Slovaks, but many consider their heritage to be Ukrainian, often because of the language and also the Ukrainian Catholic Church (an Eastern Church under the Pope). Only in the past 30 years has a Rusyn identity in North America been developing.
By the way, Carpatho-Rusyns are one of the largest ethnic groups in Western Pennsylvania...but they often mis-identify as Poles, Slovaks, or "some kind of Ukrainian," as I was once told.
My late wife was Carpatho Rusyn. Two grandparents came from the Austrian side, now Southern Poland. The other two came from the Hungarian side, now Slovakia. My wife's people called themselves "Russian" because of religious affilation. She was from Eastern Pennsylvania.
I'm in Western PA, which has the largest Slovak population outside of Slovakia. Almost nobody speaks the language any more; I rarely get a chance to practice. The dialect my wife's people spoke is sort of a Ukrainian-Slovak hybrid.
In the town I'm living in, the is a 108 year old Slovak lady. Not only was she born in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, which no longer exists, but she came from Czechoslovakia with her family in the 1920's. Not only did she outlive the country she was born in, but the country that she emigrated from, Czechoslovakia, was born after she was, and has now passed on during her lifetime!
I heard of a pianist who said:
"My father was born in Germany, my mother was born in Poland and I was born in the USSR, but all in the same town..."
M636C"My father was born in Germany, my mother was born in Poland and I was born in the USSR, but all in the same town..."
There is Lemberg(German),Lwow(Polish), and now Lviv, reflecting the city being in Austria, Poland, and Ukraine. Of course, between Poland and Ukraine, it was in the Soviet Union until the collapse in 1991. The Soviets occupied Eastern Polish territory, after WWII, Poland was "compensated" by receiving German territory in the west. I believe that's where those steam locomotives in Poland still run, to bring this conversation back to trains.
Along the same lines, Steamtown's Canadian locomotives now run on home rails without leaving the United States, since CP aquired the D&H!
Except that Steamtowm itself ix on ex-DL&W/EL property and tracks.
That's true, but the engines have been used on fantrips over former D&H trackage. Note I said," without leaving the United States." I didn't say," without leaving Scranton."
Your statement is correct. Just trying to point out that their current home is not their traditioinal home.
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