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Wartime Ads on the New York Central
Posted by Miningman on Friday, June 7, 2019 10:54 PM

This is so good it needs a thread of its own. From Mike, Of Course! 

Some good reading here! Lots to look over.  No doubt the railroads finest moments. 

 

 
If you think about it these were all done on a drafting table without benefit of any computer graphics or 

 aids besides your own talent. Also I'm sure there were not legions of designers. 

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Posted by Jones1945 on Saturday, June 8, 2019 3:58 AM

Good stuff! Thank you for your effort, Vince and Mike.

It is hard to find an advertisement which you could learn so many things from it nowadays. It has become a no-no to put "an excessive amount of intricate detail" onto an advertisement, but somehow, the world is still flooded with trashy and meaningless "information", as well as fake news.

The Victory Mail service on the train reminds me of a plot in a TV drama which I can't remember its title and details of it; a serviceman in WWII who was in charge of postal censorship (or just collecting them) selectively destroyed random letters written by, or sending to soldiers on the front line before they were filmed or distributed, even though he never met them before. His excuse was that he was bullied when he was a kid, so he vented his feeling by doing so. I don't know if it was rearranged from novels or real stories. Nobody could do such a thing today since every email is monitored or people just disappeared for various reasons. CoffeeSurprise

 https://oxfordohiohistoryharvest.tumblr.com/post/115695331833/victory-mail-sent-to-mary-sue-from-her-uncle-bill

 

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:43 PM
Good old Jones! 
 
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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, June 8, 2019 3:22 PM

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, June 8, 2019 3:23 PM

Those old advertisements are just plain fun!

When I was a boy some neighbors were throwing out old National Geographic magazines (So much for the old saying "No-one ever throws out a National Geographic!")  that dated from 1939 to the early '50s, and Dad grabbed them before the garbage truck showed up.

The old articles were fascinating, but I LOVED the old ads!  As a matter of fact I found my "dream car" on the back inside cover of the 1939 issue, a 1939 Lincoln-Zephyr V-12.  Wow, just the idea of a V-12 engine in a car!  I knew they had them in WW2 fighter planes and PT boats, but in a car?  Wow!

I saw one at a boat and car show about 10 years ago.  Just as impressive in person as it was in the ad!  

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:06 AM

Charlie Ryan's song "Hot Rod Lincoln", written as a follow-up song to the earlier hit record "The Hot Rod Race" by Arkie Shibley ("Well you've heard the story of 'The Hod Rod Race', when the Ford and the Mercury was setting the pace. Well that story's true I'm here to say, cause I was a-drivin' that Model A") was based on his own hot rod which featured a Lincoln V-12 motor and a Ford Model A body.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 11:06 AM

A Model A with a V-12 engine?  Wow.  Put wings on that thing and I'll bet it'd fly!

As my Air Force veteran brother once said, "Anything'll fly if you put a big enough engine on it!"

And how come nobody writes car songs anymore?  Times have changed I guess.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 3:40 PM

Vince (and Mike):  we need to rewrite history a bit.

The 'Lincoln motor' by the time of the Bond version of the song should have been one of THESE! (No matter what Wikipedia et al. say about Bond changing the lyrics under the table!)

Even the most hotrodded undersquare flathead twelve would have trouble with matching the Olds/Caddy OHV engines of the Fifties -- except perhaps downhill, as Ryan's car did -- but a Y-block certainly can.  The engine in the later version of the song would likely be a 317 -- think about an engine that wins the Carrera Panamericana in a Lincoln in the early '50s, year after year...

(It might have been a MEL but those were introduced in 1958, and one doubts a kid would have gotten hold of one for a rod even by 1960, let alone been able to put more than the factory tiny two-barrel on that 430 boat anchor... Big Smile)

Please get Mike to show me the lyrics to the versions of the song where Charlie sings 'it's got twelve cylinders and uses them all' - particularly the 1990 release?

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:55 PM
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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 6:37 PM

Jones1945

Good stuff! Thank you for your effort, Vince and Mike.

It is hard to find an advertisement which you could learn so many things from it nowadays. It has become a no-no to put "an excessive amount of intricate detail" onto an advertisement, but somehow, the world is still flooded with trashy and meaningless "information", as well as fake news.

The Victory Mail service on the train reminds me of a plot in a TV drama which I can't remember its title and details of it; a serviceman in WWII who was in charge of postal censorship (or just collecting them) selectively destroyed random letters written by, or sending to soldiers on the front line before they were filmed or distributed, even though he never met them before. His excuse was that he was bullied when he was a kid, so he vented his feeling by doing so. I don't know if it was rearranged from novels or real stories. Nobody could do such a thing today since every email is monitored or people just disappeared for various reasons. CoffeeSurprise

 https://oxfordohiohistoryharvest.tumblr.com/post/115695331833/victory-mail-sent-to-mary-sue-from-her-uncle-bill

 

 

There was something familiar about that cartoon of the GI with the censored V-Mail, and then I remembered.

Anyone remember a comic strip called "Mr. Breger?"  Dave Breger was the cartoonist, and he got his start in the US Army during WW2 doing GI-themed strips like the one above.  After the war "Private Breger" became "Mr. Breger," and here's one of those strips...

https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1277186  

Here's Dave Breger's story...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Breger    

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Posted by Jones1945 on Wednesday, June 12, 2019 1:57 PM

Flintlock76

There was something familiar about that cartoon of the GI with the censored V-Mail, and then I remembered.

Anyone remember a comic strip called "Mr. Breger?"  Dave Breger was the cartoonist, and he got his start in the US Army during WW2 doing GI-themed strips like the one above.  After the war "Private Breger" became "Mr. Breger," and here's one of those strips...

https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1277186  

Here's Dave Breger's story...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Breger    

Thanks a lot, Wayne! Smile

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, June 12, 2019 6:42 PM

You're welcome Mr. Jones!  I'll tell you, sometimes it mystifies me, the things I remember.

Do you think I can remember anything from my high-school algebra classes?  Hell no!  

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