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[Miningman]

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Unit #	Notes	Model	Serial	# Pictures
OSR 51		NW2	5703	12
OSR 52	Ex-CO 5242	SW9	A151	2
OSR 102	ex ETL 102	GP9	A2019	4
OSR 175		GP9	22576	29
OSR 180	ex-CP 1860 exx-CP 8769	RS18u	82450	8
OSR 181	ex CP 1861 exx CP 8777	RS18u	82458	18
OSR 182	ex-CP	RS18u	82258	45
OSR 183	ex-INCX	RS18u	M3497-02	9
OSR 184	ex-INCO 208-4	RS18	M3497-03	6
OSR 378	ex-SOO	GP7	14008	50
OSR 383	ex-SOO	GP7	16481	49
OSR 500	ex-SP	S6	81819	9
OSR 501	ex-PGE 1001	S13	82548	18
OSR 502	ex-PGE 1002	S13	82549	22
OSR 503	ex-CP	RS23	82581	30
OSR 504	ex CP 8044 built 9/1960	RS23	83286	15
OSR 505	ex-CP 8021	RS23	82573	13
OSR 506	RS-23 ex CP 8013	RS23	82476	31
OSR 507	Ex-TEMBEC 109	RS23	83290	2
OSR 641	ex-BCOL 641	M420W	6068-02	6
OSR 644	ex-BCOL 644	M420W	6068-05	23
OSR 646	Ex-BCOL	M420W	6068-07	5
OSR 647	ex-BCOL	M420W	6068-08	3
OSR 1244	ex CP 1244	SW1200RSm	A1897	11
OSR 1245	ex CP 1245	SW1200RSm	A1909	5
OSR 1249	ex CP 1249	SW1200RSm	A1914	24
OSR 1400		FP9A		25
OSR 1401		F9A		25
OSR 1508		F9A		1
OSR 1594		GP9		3
OSR 1620		GP9		13
OSR 6508	ex WSJR 6508	FP9A	A638	29
OSR 8235	ex-CP	GP9u	A1474	5
OSR BB75000		UNKNOWN		1

 

[Miningman]

Peter: This is for you! Courtesy of our Long Island friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwf_ClfQBUM

 

[Miningman]

We receive 'Australian Rules Football' on our sports channels and you can wager on the games at a government run terminal ( Of course!), the catch being you have to bet a minimum of 3 games. We have Rugby over here, don't think it is anywhere near as advanced in organization and scope as in Australia. Looks like a pretty brutal game on the TV. I did play in High School, but shirts against skins kind of thing. 

We also have Lacrosse, originated from Native North American Indians, which can also be a nasty game. Very popular at the college/university level. Lot of hockey players play Lacrosse in the summer months. 

So you have football, football, and football. Rugby, Soccer and Gridiron. Got it!

New Zealand? Really? I suspect treachery, otherwise impossible. Maybe Zena, Warrior Princess, is the driving force.

I think I would swim to New Zealand non stop from Canada if she would go out with me!!

Just received this from  HAL 9000 deep in the recesses of Long Island

A 1905 report, The Americanization of Canada cautioned that, "Baseball is becoming the National Game of Canada instead of cricket. It has a very deep significance, as has the fact that the native game of lacrosse is not able to hold its own against the southern intruder." While the Toronto Globe newspaper editorialized in response that, "Cricket fights an uphill battle to preserve old world culture on the frontier." 

In 1927, Robert Ayre cautioned, in the leading Canadian intellectual journal, The Canadian Forum, that when Canadian children "bowed down to Babe Ruth", they demonstrated that Canada had been integrated into the "American Empire"…

 

Baseball's transition before the Civil War from an informal, folk game to one characterized by the adoption of semi-formalized though regionally differentiated rules and play, largely within one's own club, made it a game still adaptable to local circumstance unlike cricket whose well-codified rules frustrated North Americans. They wanted to play a game that could be completed in several hours to conform to their busy work schedules and one that allowed for a greater exchange between offense and defense. Baseball was as well a game that still welcomed the unskilled, unlike cricket where a generation of skilled English cricketing immigrants intimidated native Americans still learning the game. Given the choice many North Americans gradually opted for what was then the easier game to play, baseball.

https://ia800409.us.archive.org/0/items/ERIC_EJ846791/ERIC_EJ846791.pdf

 

 

[M636C]

.. not your football, which is Soccer over here. 

If you found cricket complex, don't think about football in Australia....

There are two versions of Rugby (Rugby Union and Rugby League, originally the first was amateur and the second professional, but they just compete with eachother now). In the Southern states there was Australian Football which was an ofshoot of Irish Gaelic Football. Australian Football and Rugby League are in a life and death struggle to be recognised as the "main game" in Australia. As well, of course we have Soccer which is called Soccer except by those involved that call it Football. There are even a few people who play American Football that is sometimes called "Gridiron".

Every year, Australia loses an international Rugby Union game called the "Bledisloe Cup" to New Zealand, whose team is partly made up of players resident in Australia playing in the Australian competition. New Zealand occupies the place related to Australia that Canada holds with respect to the USA.

Hence the saying: "I support two teams: Australia, and whoever is playing New Zealand".

Apart from the unkind comment about finishing a game, if baseball developed in parallel in the USA and Canada, it makes sense that that would be played rather than Cricket.

Peter

[Miningman]

Yes I think you are correct about it being an FP9. I will check but I believe I am in error calling it a F7. 

With a large and growing immigrant population from India cricket is quite popular and organized in the large urban centres. However, it never took hold in any meaningful way before this. The author does mention playing cricket in Beachville way back in the day. I suppose Curling beat it out, because it involves a lot more drinking, smoking, cursing and shenanigans and what else you going to do over a long winter. Maybe the French had a hand in it... ok, curling is crazy fun but that cricket thing is too British, no way!

Never understood the game of Cricket .." well it was a close match with the final score 102 wickets to 0".   Like whaaaat?

Had it explained to me 47 times but it goes in one ear and straight out the other for some reason. 

Baseball is big big big in Southern Ontario. Football is big on the Prairies, Saskatchewan and Alberta, .. not your football, which is Soccer over here. 

 

[Backshop]

M636C

 I've never understood why Canadians don't play Cricket.....

Peter

 

Because winter would be upon them before the game was over? :)

[M636C]

 

Isn't 6508 an ex CN FP9?

And does that mean the first recorded baseball game was played in Canada?

I've never understood why Canadians don't play Cricket.....

Peter

[Jones1945]

Interesting stuff, thank you for the sharing. 

[Miningman]

From our great friend and historian.

http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH1988/JSH1501/jsh1501e.pdf

 Reading the account of the game in 1838 in the Appendix puts you right in the game. It is quite obvious they had a lot of fun. Complete with a diagram and others in the paper. Great read. 

Here is a short bio on Adam Enoch Ford.

Adam Enoch Ford was born on his father’s farm in Zorra Township, Oxford County, Ontario in 1831. In his boyhood he developed an avid interest in the sports played in and around his locale, including cricket, baseball, curling, and shooting. He entered McGill University in 1848, and eventually graduated with a medical degree in 1855. Like other Beachville residents intent on improving their economic prospects, Ford moved to the newly settled village of St. Marys in adjacent Perth County. In St. Marys he established a medical practice and became active in community civic and sport affairs. Socially and financially prominent by virtue of marriage and personal initiative, Ford’s record of sport participation and organizational leadership characterize a man of zeal and dedication. In 1864 Ford chaired the annual May 24th festivities, a day typically celebrated in Ontario with community sporting events. He sat on the board of directors of the St. Marys Driving Park Association in 1871, a position he held for some five years; and in 1879 he sat on the managing committee of the local lacrosse club. A neophyte teenage curler in the 1840s, Ford eventually rose to the presidency of the St. Marys Curling Club in 1874. Histories of the Ontario Curling Association identify him as a dynamic force behind the organization’s creation in 1874-75. Ford’s description of curling matches played in 1848, 1860 and 1878, published in several early twentieth century volumes of the Ontario Curling Association Annual, are well known to historians of curling. They provide evidence of Ford’s astute powers of observation and recall. As well, they reflect his keen love of sport."

 

[Miningman]

The Ontario Southland on the St. Thomas sub passing thru Beachville FP9 in the lead,painted in a very attractive cream and maroon reminiscent of the TH&B, encounters the sign denoting the first recorded game of baseball played in Beachville in 1838. Everything here is classic!

Beachville 
Mile 4.0 

6508_182 passing the Beachville Welcome sign.