wanswheelPerhaps 20 of them didn't, if not in the blueprint?
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timz Worley says all SFe 3800-class 2-10-2s had Elescos.
Worley says all SFe 3800-class 2-10-2s had Elescos.
Perhaps 20 of them didn't, if not in the blueprint?http://www.kansasmemory.org/item/221763/page/264
http://www.kansasmemory.org/item/221763/page/262
http://www.kansasmemory.org/item/221763/page/263
Allrighty that settles it. It's an Elesco Feedwater Heater. Yes, now I remember what the bundle is, one of those things I had forgotten...thanks Big Jim!
Miningman So is this an air tank or a feedwater heater? What exactly is a "bundle"?
So is this an air tank or a feedwater heater?
What exactly is a "bundle"?
Learn more about Feedwater Heaters here: http://www.icsarchive.org/icsarchive-org/bb/ics_bb_508d_section_2517_locomotive_feedwater_heating_equipments.pdf
ndbprr:I believe this is an ex PRR L2s USRA design 2-8-2.
I believe this is an ex PRR L2s USRA design 2-8-2. PRR had 5 to go with their L1s 2-8-2 of which there were hundreds. All had their air tank on the pilot. I suspect that when the USRA forced these on the PRR they were outfitted like the L1s engies. The L2s engines were dumped at the first opportuity and IIRC ATSF bought them. PRR M1 and M1A 4-8-2 engines also had pilot mounted air tanks,
This isn't the first time that I have seen the mounting of an Elesco FWH down on the pilot deck. This same subject came up somewhere else in the past year or so. As for Santa Fe's reason, I am not read enough in Santa Fe practices to know for sure. However, being on the pilot deck does make it closer to the source of exhaust steam. I would like to see more pictures of this loco as I am not seeing a mounting of the normal cold water pump associated with Elesco.
I don't know anything about feedwater heaters but here's the loco in question:
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That could be an Elesco feedwater heater, but if it is it's in an unusual location. Typically they were mounted high on the smokebox front.
The other common feedwater heaters were the Worthington, usually mounted on the "port side" of the locomotive, (just keeping up with the nautical terminology here, 'abaft" is a cool word, as is 'athwart') in the neighborhood of the cross-compound air pumps, or inside the smokebox, and the wierd Coffin feedwater heater, mounted on the front of the smokebox and draping around it like a shroud.
Whatever it is, it may not be a feedwater heater at all, some 'roads didn't bother with them, not believing they were worth the extra maintanance work, and some who had them removed them later for the same reason.
From NDG over at the Trains "String Lining" thread.
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