Streamliner books

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by drephpe

For a bit more technical approach with a lot of good historical information, let me strongly recommend The Art of the Streamliner (Johnston, Welch, Schafer), published by Metrobooks. It also contains a lot of outstanding art work on car interiors by Mitch Markovitz ("Artmark" on these forums). Their approach is more from a design/architectural history standpoint. If you ever wondered about who exactly Raymond Loewy, Henry Dreyfuss, Brooks Stevens, Paul Cret etc. were and what they did, or what the inside of the 1938 Century and Broadway really looked like, this is the book for you.[tup][tup]

Of course, no pax library should also be without The American Railroad Passenger Car (White).

Thanks so much for your kind words concerning my artwork. That makes the effort worthwhile.
Aside from doing advertising artwork, and the timetable cover for the IC Electric Suburban service, my father did a lot of furniture illustrations. My mom was an interior designer. So my interest in passenger car interiors started early. The insides is where ya ride and I find them more interesting, in some respects, than the outsides. It was sad to be in train service in the '70s and watch the real railroad interiors, designed by leaders, degenerate into faux-mod nightmares designed by the car knockers.
Mitch

[passengerfan]

Try finding a copy of A Quarter Century of Santa Fe Consists. I understand it is available through the The Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society in electronic form. A new book written by Patrick C. Dorin Santa Fe Passenger Trains in the Streamlined Era also is very good.

[Anonymous]

anyone know any books that go into detail only about the Santa Fe streamliners? thanks

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Well, UP used the name "Streamliner", and you can't go past the Kratville book called "Streamliners". It must be one of the best of its kind. It has a few minor errors and glitches, but the only way anyone will get my copy is if I leave it to them in my will!

m636c,

thanks for recommending this book. the library didn't let me borrow this book, so i bought one at the railroad museum in sacramento. they have new reprint copies of 1992. i was so suprised about the pictures. i never seen the build-up off all the UP streamliners before. Never knew how they looked inside the coaches or inside the engine units. UP streamliners were the first to use automatic pressure brakes from Decelakron.

[Anonymous]

A really good book on streamliners that I have and that no one has mentioned yet is "Streamliners: History of a Railroad Icon" by Mike Shaefer and Joe Welsh. It's very informative and beautifully illustrated and covers all of the major streamliners from the 1930's to the start of Amtrak.

[Anonymous]

If you can find one, look at Some Classic Trains and More Classic Trains

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know the color scheme for the interior of the Norfolk & Western streamline cars? I bought the Powhatan Arrow set from IHC but, it has no interior and the kit they sell for it, the colors are green and white. What color do I paint them? Also, When did the Vista View enter the consist? Lastly, what order do the cars go in?

[espeefoamer]

Also check out The Trains We Rode, Vols 1 & 2, by Bebe & Clegg.
SP Passenger Cars V1. Coaches and Chair Cars, published by the SP H&TS.Good luck finding this as it is out of print.

[Anonymous]

For a bit more technical approach with a lot of good historical information, let me strongly recommend The Art of the Streamliner (Johnston, Welch, Schafer), published by Metrobooks. It also contains a lot of outstanding art work on car interiors by Mitch Markovitz ("Artmark" on these forums). Their approach is more from a design/architectural history standpoint. If you ever wondered about who exactly Raymond Loewy, Henry Dreyfuss, Brooks Stevens, Paul Cret etc. were and what they did, or what the inside of the 1938 Century and Broadway really looked like, this is the book for you.[tup][tup]

Of course, no pax library should also be without The American Railroad Passenger Car (White).

[passengerfan]

Other passenger train books are Atlantic Coast Line Passenger Service, Short Line Doodlebug, The Canadian, Budd Car The RDC Story, The Streamliner, A Century of Pullman Cars, Santa Fe The Chief Way, Streamliner Memories, Exposition Flyer, Twentieth Century Limited, Nickel Plate Passenger Service, Great steel Fleet, N7W passenger service, Zephyrs through the Rockies, Canadian Treasures Two trains across Canada, Twilight of the Great Trains, SP Passenger Train consists and cars 1955-58, Pullman Standard heavyweights, Some Classic Trains, More Classic Trains, UP Streamliners, C&NW Passenger Service postwar Years, B&O Passenger Service Vol 1-2, CZ Story of the California Zephyr, Zephyrs Chiefs and Other Orphans, MP Passenger trains postwar years, Passenger Trains Northern New England, Pere Marquettes, Super Chief, Belle Epoque Orient express, American Railroad Passenger Cars Vol 1-2, Canadian National Passenger Cars Vol 1-2, By Streamliner New York to Florida, Orange Blossom Special, C&O Streamliners second to none, New Havens Streamliner Passenger Fleet, The Great Age OF the Passenger Train, RDC, Amtrak Trains, Domeliners, Amtrak Trains, Pennsy streamliners, Steamliners and Throughbreds.Besides these I have approximately 300 RR books many of them deal with passenger trains to a degree. Good Luck I only wanted one or two books on the subject and now have over 500 RR books. It's like a disease once you start collecting you can't stop. One word of caution if you collect books be sure to get a rider insurance policy that covers replacement value. It worth it.

[Anonymous]

does the book Some Classic Trains and More Classic Trains go into detail about the streamliners between 1930's to 1970's? I want to compare the data.

m636c,

acutally my library has that book. "The Union Pacific streamliners" by Harold E Ranks. It's a very good book. shows all the details from the m10000 all the way up to the trains to 1971. it has like 600 pages?

[Anonymous]

Some Classic Trains and More Classic Trains. These two books would help you alot.

[passengerfan]

In addition to the previously mentioned books I also have SP Datylight trains 98-99
SP Passsenger trains day trains of the Coast line, Daylight Reflections,
SP Passenger trains night trains of the coast line, SP Passenger cars coaches,
Pullman Standard 15 volumes, Budd &ACF 7 Volumes, American Streamliner prewar, Classic American Streamliners, The American Passsenger Train, The Streamline Era, Coach Trains & Travel, Vista dome North Coast limited, Burlington Zephyrs, The Early Zephyrs, Steam Steel & limiteds, Trains we rode Vol1 and Vol 2, Night trains, GN Pictorial vol 4-5-6, NP Pictorial Vol 4-5, 400 Story, Hiawatha Story, A century of passenger trains, The Overland ltd, Route of the Eagles, Route of the Rockets and about 300 additional railroad books many of those covering passenger trains as well. Many of the books I mention are still available although some would be very difficul;t to find now. Hope this helps a little

[M636C]

Well, UP used the name "Streamliner", and you can't go past the Kratville book called "Streamliners". It must be one of the best of its kind. It has a few minor errors and glitches, but the only way anyone will get my copy is if I leave it to them in my will!

The books published by Kalmbach, based on Arthur Dubin's articles in Trains, "Some Classic Trains" and "More Classic Trains" are really great general references to both Heavyweight and Streamliner trains.

And see my answer to the "Comet " question!

But with those three books listed here, you will have as good a general reference as you need, and then you might need to get specific books like the "Pullman Standard Treasury" series that actually show the prototype construction floor plans.

But there's a lot out there, it's a great subject, and get as involved as you want!

I remember one day in 1981 stumbling across the two unit diner sets from the "Broadway Limited" in Seattle. The other guys who were with me there on Navy business thought I was quite mad! Maybe they were right!

Peter

[Anonymous]

Looking for more interesting books for American Streamliners.