Elliott Erwitt's UP Challenger shot

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Famous photographer Elliott Erwitt shot a "small" Challenger in Wyoming in 1954:

http://mediastore.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR2/e/8/5/7/NYC15334.jpg

Does anybody know the exact location?

Train number seems to be 2-262:

http://mediastore2.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR2/1/2/a/9/NYC71251.jpg

(Links were taken from this website: http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=MAGO31_10_VForm&ERID=24KL53Z1OG

[timz]

I've wondered where it was, but never saw the "262" in the numberboards. Probably it isn't Wyoming at all, but haven't got a better theory yet. Bancroft, ID needs some investigation.

(Looks like the elevator at left is still there at 42.7179N 111.8824W

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.7179,-111.8824&hl=en&ll=42.717901,-111.8824&spn=0.00105,0.001725&sll=42.717826,-111.882228&sspn=0.00105,0.001725&t=k&z=19

Turns out 262's schedule existed between Huntington and Glenns Ferry and between Pocatello and Green River. It was due out of Huntington at 1750 MST, so we can't entirely rule out that area, but it's unlikely.

It was due out of Pocatello at 1130 MST and Granger at 1930, so no reason to rule out Bancroft. (Don't pay too much attention to the schedule-- the train could well be hours "late". But it isn't allowed to be early, and it isn't allowed to be more than 12 hours late.)

[BaltACD]

timz

I've wondered where it was, but never saw the "262" in the numberboards. Probably it isn't Wyoming at all, but haven't got a better theory yet. Bancroft, ID needs some investigation.

(Looks like the elevator at left is still there at 42.7179N 111.8824W

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.7179,-111.8824&hl=en&ll=42.717901,-111.8824&spn=0.00105,0.001725&sll=42.717826,-111.882228&sspn=0.00105,0.001725&t=k&z=19

Turns out 262's schedule existed between Huntington and Glenns Ferry and between Pocatello and Green River. It was due out of Huntington at 1750 MST, so we can't entirely rule out that area, but it's unlikely.

It was due out of Pocatello at 1130 MST and Granger at 1930, so no reason to rule out Bancroft. (Don't pay too much attention to the schedule-- the train could well be hours "late". But it isn't allowed to be early, and it isn't allowed to be more than 12 hours late.)

Remember in railroading in the 40's to the 80's where other than 1st Class Schedules existed in the employee TT's - Those schedules were tools for the Train Dispatchers use in dispatching trains.  They were tools that had a 12 hour lifetime at any point listed.  In the hierarchy of trains 1st Class was superior to 2nd Class which was superior to 3rd Class.  Westbounds, on many properties, were superior to Eastbounds.  Extra trains were inferior to all scheduled trains.

The Train Dispatcher would not always set definitive meet orders between all trains.  The Train Dispatcher would issue train orders to inferior trains that adjusted the schedules of superior trains (superior trains would also receive a copy of the order so it could operate in conformity of the adjusted schedule) to permit the inferior train to make the best possible meet clearing the superior trains adjusted schedule time. 

It would get very interesting when a scheduled train was about to exceed 12 hours late and then would have to be set up as an Extra train to continue it's trip to destination.