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Walk Through on E & F Locomotives

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Walk Through on E & F Locomotives
Posted by rjemery on Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:45 PM

When a consist had multiple E and/or F diesel locomotives, such as in an A-B-B-A configuration, was it possible to walk through each unit to get from one end to the other?

Also, did these locomotives and successors come equipped with lavatories?

RJ Emery near Santa Fe, NM

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Posted by henry6 on Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:08 PM

Yes,  Usually,  Even when  elephant style or nose to nose but not as safely as when in proper order and face.

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Posted by NorthWest on Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:17 PM

All Es and Fs had doors on "blunt" ends (the vertical ends). They have a diaphragm like passenger cars. All Fs and Es except the EA, E1, E2, E3, E5 and E6 had nose doors. These were usable, although quite dangerous, particularly at speed.

They did have toilets.

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Posted by efftenxrfe on Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:39 PM

Retain restraint when saying "all have or they have....," pls, Bro's and Sis"s?

I never, thru hundreds of SP E and F B-units, saw anything resembling a toilet, tho' A-units did have a "facility" more advanced than an outhouse, but it was a drafty straight pipe down to where the section gangs worked, and maybe where you walked to school along the "tracks."

We, SP, had "walkway chains" which were connecting the adjacent locomotives no matter whether the ends of road switchers or them to either end of an F or less likely, an E. The chains were railings, like on stairs, or lifelines, when an errant bird, one night, hit and blew up while I was crossing over,unit to unit, alarm bells ringing, looking for the fault.

Dangerous at.....speed?

Yeah. but what choice?

A fireman's job was to to assist and correct problems  the engineer

encountered, learn from those problems....right!....sure.

Lance Proudfit, the San Francisco RFE that hired me said if you don't go back thru' the units every half hour to inspect, them you are..... ,


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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, November 25, 2013 4:08 AM

Blunt ends could be equipped with diaphragms, but they were optional, and even when provided were sometimes not maintained.

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