Emerald Brook B & O passenger car

[yellowducky]

Lionel made a B & O passenger car named "Emerald Brook".

1.  Was there a real B & O passenger car named "Emerald Brook"?

2.  Who was Emerald Brook?

 My internet searches have found no answers to these questions.

Thanks to anybody who helps.

Dan

[U-3-b]

This is not the answer you are looking for but., you might want to ask the people over at the Yahoo Group "Passenger Car List."  I know there was a "Brook" series of Pullmans and there are a lot of very knowledgeable people on that list.

Hope this helps.

Steve

 

[NP Eddie]

Lucky Ducky:

To answer your question---"Yes" there was a Pullman owned car and assigned to the B&O named "Emerald Brook". "Car Names, Numbers, and Consists", Wayner, 1972, Page 53 lists four "Emerald" series cars---Bay, Brook, Falls, and Wave--that were "heavyweight cars similarly [referring to the top of page 53] renovated and streamlined for the National Limited in 1940". A series of 38 heavyweight cars are listed.  

Wayners book is the complete reference for the steamlined era and also lists those heavyweight cars that were rebuilt for pre-WWII operation. You might find a copy on E-Bay or at bookstore. Mine was falling apart so I had it rebound in Minneapolis.

"Some Classic Trains" (Dubin 1964), page 100 does show a broadside photo of the "Emerald Brook" and how it was modernized.

Ed Burns

Retired NP-BN-BNSF Minneapolis

 

 

 

[Deggesty]

Working with Kratville Publications' Passenger Car Catalog and Wayner's Pullman Panorama, Vol. 1, I went back to the origin of the car that was named "Emerald Brook."

Page 55 of Kratville's book tells us that "Emerald Brook" was built to Plan 4022, and it was rebuilt from "Honduras"

Page 48 of Pullman Panorama has the origin of the car: it was built to Plan 2410F (12 sections and one drawing room) as a part of lot 4503, and was built in June or July of 1917--and was rebuilt (as an 8 section 4 double bedroom car) in 5/32. Emerald Bay was built in May or June of 1917 as "Himrod" and rebuilt 5/32; "Emerald Falls" was built during July-September 1917 as "Napier," and was rebuilt 6/32. "Emerald Waves" had a longer pedigree. It was originally the 16 section car "Milldyke" built to plan 2412F in 5-6/16, rebuilt to plan 2412H in 1/32 and renamed "Dalesburg," and apparently rebuilt to plan 4022 later in the same year.

Plan 2410 was the basic 12-1 plan--and there were several variations of this, most with production running into hundreds of cars in each variation. There were 931 cars built to Plan 2410F; most of them ended up as tourist cars before they were scrapped and only a few were rebuilt to other configurations.