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RAILROAD OPERATED SLEEPING CARS
Posted by NP Eddie on Saturday, May 11, 2013 11:56 AM

This post is regarding railroad operated sleeping cars after, say, 1930 or so.

I know that the SOO (except interline cars), NYC and RI (after 1958) except interline cars operated their own sleeping cars.

What other railroads also operated their own sleeping cars?

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Posted by FlyingCrow on Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:41 PM

FRISCO operated the sleeper to Pensacola.    

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:10 PM

Central of Georgia operated on-line sleepers for several years.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, May 13, 2013 10:07 AM

Of course, the two interurban lines that ran sleepers, the Interstate between Indianapolis and Louisville, operated by the Indiana RR after it assumed operations in 1931 but discontinued after about a year, and the Oregon Electric between Ogdon and Payson, but no through service over the Bamberger to Salt Lake City, wonder why.    The OE cars ended up as sleepers for the Pacific Great Eastern, which also ran its own sleeping cars.     Also didn't both the CN and CP except into the USA?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, May 13, 2013 10:20 AM

I believe that MILW operated its own sleeping cars.

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Posted by wingnut1974 on Monday, May 13, 2013 4:55 PM

il terminal operated interurban sleepers as well one survives at il railroad museum. a couple of carbodies survive in s. il. one is by a former depot

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:56 AM

Correct about the IT and at one time two routes, but I forget exactly what the two routes were!

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Posted by rcdrye on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:22 PM

Georgia RR operated its own cars Atlanta-Augusta, Pullmans interline on some other routes.

Soo's interline services with CP were railroad operated, with joint cars over the MILW (Chicago-Sault Ste. Marie) operated by Pullman.  In an interesting twist the Chicago-Calumet MI Copper Country Limited was a Pullman line MILW and DSS&A until the Soo Merger in 1961, then was the Soo's sole Pullman line until the MILW took over sleeper operation in 1965 or so.  The "City" trains' sleepers were operated by UP after the end of Pullman service in the late 1960s. Both Soo and Milwaukee cars were listed in the Pullman car lists.

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Posted by rcdrye on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:02 AM

Both AT&SF (Super Chief) and CB&Q (Denver Zephyr) had prewar Budd-built sleepers owned by the railroads but operated by Pullman under contract.  The DZ cars triggered the 1940 antitrust lawsuit.

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Posted by nyc#25 on Monday, May 27, 2013 3:07 PM

  The Milwaukee Road contracted with Pullman for its feature trains such as the " Olympian"

and the "Pioneer Limited".     Milwaukee operated sleepers were  used on many local lines.

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Posted by AgentKid on Monday, May 27, 2013 7:06 PM

daveklepper
Also didn't both the CN and CP except into the USA?

Yes.

I can remember as a little kid when my father would read books about trains to me and my brother, he would stop and make a point that on CP Sleeping Cars were not Pullman Cars, but were to be called Sleeping Cars or Sleepers.

As a side note we were also taught that in England they called ties, sleepers.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:17 PM

And Pullman cars in England are or were what we called Parlor Cars   -exceptt hat seating was 1 and 2 facing small ables and tea or coffee and biscuits were always served.   There were all-Pullman deluxe trains, such as Southern Ry's Brighton Bell (MU) and Bournmouth Bell (Steam).

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Posted by Deacon Don on Monday, July 1, 2013 1:37 PM
The Iowa Pacific RR is runing a Pullman train from Chicago to New Orleans. Nice trip...
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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, July 2, 2013 1:37 PM

Deacon Don, if you rode it, tell us about it, all the details!

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