George M Pu;llman

[cnwfan51]

     the topic of observation cars got me to thinking, Years ago the Chicago Great Western bought the round end Observation car the George M Pullman and want ted convert it to a Track `gemonitry car. I was wondering what happened to it? I know it survied till the take over by the Chicago Nrthwestern but I lost ttrack of it. Any information would be helpful Thank You Larry

[BaltACD]

Have never seen it 'live' or ridden on it....everything I have read said it rode like a bucking bronco.  Mostly aluminum construction and too light for the springs in the trucks....many roads tried it but it never stayed in one service for long.

[ZephyrOverland]

cnwfan51

     the topic of observation cars got me to thinking, Years ago the Chicago Great Western bought the round end Observation car the George M Pullman and want ted convert it to a Track `gemonitry car. I was wondering what happened to it? I know it survied till the take over by the Chicago Nrthwestern but I lost ttrack of it. Any information would be helpful Thank You Larry

According to Welsh's Travel by Pullman, the George M. Pullman was scrapped in 1964.

[daveklepper]

A second Geroge M. Pullman was (hopefully still is) an Amtrak Superliner 1 sleeper, the last passenger car built by the Pullman Standard Car and Manufacturing Company before it exited the passenger car market.   I think they still continued in the frieght car business for a while longer.  Rode in the car once from Omaha to Denver on the Amtrak San Francisco Zephyr.   (It headed west from Denver via Chayanne and the UP.)

[FlyingCrow]

The George M. Pullman ended up at Erman-Howell, Turner, KS.    Famous, or infamous,  for scrapping all sorts of historic equipment . 

I saw it and through the courtesy of the E-H onsite manager, walked through the remnants of it in the late 60's.     Joe Welsh is incorrect in the date.    

 

abd

[cnwfan51]

   Thank You all for the responses I thought I had heard it was scrapped  This confirms it  Thank You again

[daveklepper]

Anyone know where the GMP the second, the Superliner I sleeper, is being used?   I assume it went through the overhaul program.