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4-4-0 American question. Toy Story 3 related.

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Posted by ModelTrainman on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 5:54 PM
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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:54 PM

Without seeing a picture it's hard to say too much. Some very early engines had four-wheel tenders, and there were four wheel cars too. Except for "bobber" cabooses, 4 wheel freight cars were pretty rare after maybe 1850 or so. By the Civil War, eight wheels was standard for tenders and freight cars. However, it wouldn't be unusual for toy trains to have fewer wheels than the prototype. 

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:55 PM

SantaFe158
Here's a 4-4-0 that Henry Ford built out of two or three locomotives, it's got a 4 wheeled tender, but it doesn't look too bad with the locomotive. It's at Greenfield Village in Dearborn Michigan http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=302193&nseq=114

I knew Ford built tractors; I had not known that he also built locomotives.Smile

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Posted by SantaFe158 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 8:45 PM
Here's a 4-4-0 that Henry Ford built out of two or three locomotives, it's got a 4 wheeled tender, but it doesn't look too bad with the locomotive. It's at Greenfield Village in Dearborn Michigan http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=302193&nseq=114
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, July 30, 2010 6:58 AM

Never having seen the movie in question, I cannot say what kind of tender was behind the 4-4-0.

Looking at prototype 4-4-0s of typical North American design, while the usual practice was to supply an eight-wheeled (2 truck) tender, there have also been short range versions with 4 wheel tenders.  One rather numerous class (JNR 6760 class) had 6 wheel tenders.  (Other classes used outside of North America are excluded because of their lack of typical cabs.  Open footplates were never popular in America and would have been cruel and unusual punishment in Canada.)

As for the 4-wheel cars, while they were uncommon on North American railroads they were not unknown.  Elsewhere in the world, they were ubiquitous.

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4-4-0 American question. Toy Story 3 related.
Posted by ModelTrainman on Friday, July 30, 2010 12:27 AM

There's a 4-4-0 American in Pixar's Toy Story 3. I've seen the movie, but I can't remember if there's a tender? Does anyone remember? Also, don't the Americans haul eight wheeled tenders(two four wheeled trucks)? Also, the cars seem to be short wheelbased, with only two axles. This is prototypical also, right? I bought the LEGO version of the TS3 train. Forgive me if my post seems odd. I haven't been here regulary, at least for the past four years. Thanks! MTM

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