Englewood Station

[wanswheel]

Valparaiso trains by Marty Bernard

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=257464

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[richhotrain]

I think he meant Southtown Theater which is what he said in his first post. 

[D.Bernie]

Most likely the Southtown, one of the 5 big Balaban & Katz theatres. I believe the South Shore was on Jeffrey Blvd around 71st.

[richhotrain]

spikejones52002

 I was not that versed as to how or what arrangements the Chicago Council made. I know I boarded the train on 6300 South and the station over looked the South Shore theater. It only carried Boy scouts and it had aprox 10 cars. It ran to Owasippe and back. It made three stops before heading to the camp drop-off, downtown (?), Englewood and one after 63.

Now I'm puzzled.  Southtown Theater or South Shore theater?

Not sure where you caught the train.

[spikejones52002]

 I was not that versed as to how or what arrangements the Chicago Council made. I know I boarded the train on 6300 South and the station over looked the South TOWN (corrected) theater. It only carried Boy scouts and it had aprox 10 cars. It ran to Owasippe and back. It made three stops before heading to the camp drop-off, downtown (?), Englewood and one after 63.

[D.Bernie]

While I made it a point to get to Englewood and Little Englewood somewhat frequently as a boy, I lived nearest to the Woodlawn station on the ICRR, riding the electrics to and from the Loop and later the City of NO, Louisianne and the Seminole to Champaign for the U of I. I lived at 6431 Harper, two blocks from the IC and attended school at St. Cyril and (to the lament of those who attended St. Rita) I went to Mt. Carmel which was backed up against the tracks. Several Saturday mornings a year were spent visiting all the downtown stations: Central, Dearborn, LaSalle, Grand Central, CA&E on Wells, Union and Northwestern and finally Randolph St. I must have thought my mind would forever capture what I saw as I took no pictures. An interesting aspect of the IC was that the waiting room for the through trains at 63rd was west of the tracks so there would be a parade through the electric area, and inside the ticket booth, to the through tracks. While I never actually tried it, it could be a way to skip buying a ticket on the electrics. I used to love standing in the front car to see what the motor man saw. Bad deal going downtown as the northern most car was the smoking car. Ugh! As for the Englewoods, took Rock Island to Englewood and I think Wabash to Little, and the 63rd St streetcar home. The fare was four cents until I finally admitted that I was 12. Had my first auto accident driving down from the Englewood station. Although home with flu, I was pressed into duty to meet an Aunt and I cut the sharp turn coming down a little too close. There also was a stop for the IC and Big 4 through trains at 53rd. An Aunt and Uncle lived on Cornell on the 14th floor and I loved just sitting there, looking out the window as the through trains barked their way to track speed. What a city in which to watch trains!

[pullman jct]

Rich,

GTW trains stopped in South Bend. You lived fairly close to Chicago Lawn. That would be a good guess for your departure point.

Bob

[richhotrain]

pullman jct

CSSHEGEWISCH

I'm puzzled.  I have three younger brothers who were Scouts (Two Eagles and a Life Scout) so I know that the closest railroad to Owasippe was C&O/PM, which used the 63rd St. station by St. Rita HS.  Also, diesels in the 50's would rule out GTW at Little Englewood.

 Not to mention that GTW didn't use the C&WI Englewood Station. GTW trains left C&WI tracks at 47th St. They had their own station on 63rd St called Chicago Lawn.

That's the station at 63rd and Central Park that was mentioned earlier in this thread.

When I was a kid before my parents owned a car in the late 40s and early 50s, we took a train to South Bend Indiana to visit my Dad's brother and his family.  We rode on a train headed by a steam engine.  We lived on the near southwest side of Chicago at 60th and Western.  My parents are gone now, and for the life of me, I cannot remember where we boarded the train or what line it was.  But, my guess is that it was the GTW.  Did that train run to South Bend?  Maybe we took the streetcar on 63rd Street to the Chicago Lawn station?   Or, if it were the GTW, could we have gone downtown and boarded at Dearborn Station?  Or was it the NYC out of LaSalle Street Station?  That is a mystery I may never solve.

Rich

[pullman jct]

CSSHEGEWISCH

I'm puzzled.  I have three younger brothers who were Scouts (Two Eagles and a Life Scout) so I know that the closest railroad to Owasippe was C&O/PM, which used the 63rd St. station by St. Rita HS.  Also, diesels in the 50's would rule out GTW at Little Englewood.

 Not to mention that GTW didn't use the C&WI Englewood Station. GTW trains left C&WI tracks at 47th St. They had their own station on 63rd St called Chicago Lawn.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

spikejones52002

 I have good memories of the Englewood station on 63 st south next to the South Town Theater. I was a boy scout in the Chicago District late 50s. We would catch a train there to take us to the Owisipe summer scout camps.

We would disenbark the train near Whitehall Mi. for two weeks. No station there just a open field. The train delivering the next two week scheduled group would pick up the previous weeks group and return them to Chicago.

All I can remember is the big diesel engine pulling up.

I'm puzzled.  I have three younger brothers who were Scouts (Two Eagles and a Life Scout) so I know that the closest railroad to Owasippe was C&O/PM, which used the 63rd St. station by St. Rita HS.  Also, diesels in the 50's would rule out GTW at Little Englewood.

[richhotrain]

spikejones52002

 I have good memories of the Englewood station on 63 st south next to the South Town Theater. I was a boy scout in the Chicago District late 50s. We would catch a train there to take us to the Owisipe summer scout camps.

We would disenbark the train near Whitehall Mi. for two weeks. No station there just a open field. The train delivering the next two week scheduled group would pick up the previous weeks group and return them to Chicago.

All I can remember is the big diesel engine pulling up.

That would be the "Little Englewood Station".  The Southtown Theater was on 63rd Street between Lowe and Parnell Streets, adjacent to the passenger station.

[spikejones52002]

 I have good memories of the Englewood station on 63 st south next to the South Town Theater. I was a boy scout in the Chicago District late 50s. We would catch a train there to take us to the Owisipe summer scout camps.

We would disenbark the train near Whitehall Mi. for two weeks. No station there just a open field. The train delivering the next two week scheduled group would pick up the previous weeks group and return them to Chicago.

All I can remember is the big diesel engine pulling up.

[pullman jct]

Dan,

I took a quick look in the B&O yahoo group photo section and couldn't find the 63rd St Station photo. Where is it? Thanks!

 Bob

[richhotrain]

DANCBQ

fwiw there are a couple of pictures of a b&o president class pacific passing one of the platforms at 63rd st over at the b&o yahoo group. Also the gtw station is still standing at 63rd st . it was at one point a club called trax and it is currently unused an deterioting.

I passed that station every day on my way to and from school.

Wonder how many more years it will be left standing?

Rich

[DANCBQ]

fwiw there are a couple of pictures of a b&o president class pacific passing one of the platforms at 63rd st over at the b&o yahoo group. Also the gtw station is still standing at 63rd st . it was at one point a club called trax and it is currently unused an deterioting.

[richhotrain]

KCSfan

richhotrain

KCSfan

I don't see where anyone mentioned the third Englewood Station, that on the Illinois Central N-S eight track mainline at 63rd Street. The IC's electric suburban trains stopped there as did all the IC through trains except for those on the Iowa Division. The South Shore, and NYC's Michigan Central and Big Four ran on IC trackage and all the Chciago trains of these roads also stoppped there.

Mark

As CSSHEGEWISCH notes, technically, the IC station at 63rd Street is considered in Woodlawn, not Englewood.

I must have had one of those "senior moments" when I referred to the IC 63rd St. station as being a third Englewood Station.

Don't we all?  LOL

Rich

[KCSfan]

richhotrain

KCSfan

I don't see where anyone mentioned the third Englewood Station, that on the Illinois Central N-S eight track mainline at 63rd Street. The IC's electric suburban trains stopped there as did all the IC through trains except for those on the Iowa Division. The South Shore, and NYC's Michigan Central and Big Four ran on IC trackage and all the Chciago trains of these roads also stoppped there.

Mark

As CSSHEGEWISCH notes, technically, the IC station at 63rd Street is considered in Woodlawn, not Englewood.

I must have had one of those "senior moments" when I referred to the IC 63rd St. station as being a third Englewood Station. Though it's been 45 years since I regularly rode the old IC wickerliners you'd think I'd remember the hundreds of times I heard trainmen announce the station stop as 63rd St. Woodlawn. Thanks to you and CSSH for correcting me.

Mark

[richhotrain]

CSSHEGEWISCH

There were several stations along 63rd Street in Chicago: Woodlawn (IC, MC, Big Four) at about 1200 E. 63rd St, Englewood (PRR, NYC, RI, NKP) at about 63rd and State, "Little" Englewood (Erie, Monon, Wabash, C&EI, C&WI) at 551 W. 63rd St, 63rd St (B&O, PM/C&O) at about 2200 W. 63rd St, Chicago Lawn (GTW) at about 3600 W 63rd St.

Wow, you're good.  That GTW station at 63rd and Central Park brings back a lot of childhood memories.  I grew up at 3623 W. 70th Street, 7 houses west of the GTW tracks and went to grammar school at St. Nicholas of Tolentine at 3700 West 62nd Street.

Rich

[richhotrain]

KCSfan

I don't see where anyone mentioned the third Englewood Station, that on the Illinois Central N-S eight track mainline at 63rd Street. The IC's electric suburban trains stopped there as did all the IC through trains except for those on the Iowa Division. The South Shore, and NYC's Michigan Central and Big Four ran on IC trackage and all the Chciago trains of these roads also stoppped there.

Mark

As CSSHEGEWISCH notes, technically, the IC station at 63rd Street is considered in Woodlawn, not Englewood.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

There were several stations along 63rd Street in Chicago: Woodlawn (IC, MC, Big Four) at about 1200 E. 63rd St, Englewood (PRR, NYC, RI, NKP) at about 63rd and State, "Little" Englewood (Erie, Monon, Wabash, C&EI, C&WI) at 551 W. 63rd St, 63rd St (B&O, PM/C&O) at about 2200 W. 63rd St, Chicago Lawn (GTW) at about 3600 W 63rd St.

[KCSfan]

I don't see where anyone mentioned the third Englewood Station, that on the Illinois Central N-S eight track mainline at 63rd Street. The IC's electric suburban trains stopped there as did all the IC through trains except for those on the Iowa Division. The South Shore, and NYC's Michigan Central and Big Four ran on IC trackage and all the Chciago trains of these roads also stoppped there.

Mark

[rrlineman]

WW1 send off by his parents? love the period look!

[wanswheel]

Winifred Landis, Reed Landis and Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis, the first Commissioner of Baseball.

Mike

[rrlineman]

A great piece of Film and great pictures from back in the day!

thanks for posting them. Mike

[wanswheel]

Everybody saw the video extra, right?

http://www.trains.com/ctr/default.aspx?c=a&id=362

Mike

[Anonymous]

Ah me, the problems of old age.  Wanswheel had the street shot which I confused with the Pennsy train blocking the Rock's tracks.

Art

 

 

[Anonymous]

Oh that I did, Rich, and also the view of the NYC/PRR/Rock station at ground level.  I suspect little is left of the little 63rd, and I doubt that I'll get back to Illinois soon.  No kin except a niece in Joliet, two nieces north of Chicago, and a nephew in Chi are all that's left of my parents' 11 offspring that were begat some 90 miles south of the windy city.  Bad enough travelling to see your own kids, let alone your brothers'!

Got my first glimpse of the city when my folks took me and my older brother to see the 1933 World's Fair.  Still remember a lot of the trip.  Especially the railroad exhibit and a fantastic model railroad display.

Art

[richhotrain]

artschlosser

Interesting picture, Rich.  Looks like a 'dolled up' post card. The fields look just right for for Mrs. O'Leary's cow to feast on.

The picture in the first post sure has a lot more going for it!

Art

Art,

Hope you saw the photo of Little Englewood that I posted for your benefit.  Scroll up a few posts.

Rich

[Anonymous]

Interesting picture, Rich.  Looks like a 'dolled up' post card. The fields look just right for for Mrs. O'Leary's cow to feast on.

The picture in the first post sure has a lot more going for it!

Art