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Allegheney "pivoting" engines?

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Allegheney "pivoting" engines?
Posted by wobblinwheel on Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:29 PM

I just saw a video on Youtube taken from the Henry Ford Museum about the C&O Allegheney 2666 locomotive. In the video, the narrator states tha BOTH engine groups on this locomotive pivot independently. Is this true? It seems that all other articulated locomotives I've read about only swivel on the FRONT engine. The rear set remains stationary. Anybody know the poop on this?

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:32 PM

On the prototype of ANY prototype American articulated locomotive, the front driver set swivels, and the back set is firmly attached to the boiler and firebox. 

The narrator has probably been watching too many contemporary plastic articulateds running on  18" radii on HO model railroads.

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Posted by challenger3980 on Monday, August 17, 2009 12:38 AM

  Oh come on now Tom, I've got  4 Challengers, 3 Big Boys and a Cab-Forward, in Die-Cast metal O-Gauge, that will get around 15 1/2 " Radius curves, it's not just the plastic HO that get to have all the funSmile,Wink, & Grin

The top two in the left column are an H-7 2-8-8-2 (former C&O ) and a Y-3(former N&W). The top of the right column is a Big Boy, the Bottom of the right column is an AC-9  2-8-8-4, theese are Scale sized models that require 072 curves(36" Radius), the scale models are properly Articulated. The others are all Semi-Scale, and Double Articulated, they will handle 031 (15 1/2" Radius) curves.

Doug

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, August 17, 2009 12:11 PM

wobblinwheel

I just saw a video on Youtube taken from the Henry Ford Museum about the C&O Allegheney 2666 locomotive. In the video, the narrator states tha BOTH engine groups on this locomotive pivot independently. Is this true? It seems that all other articulated locomotives I've read about only swivel on the FRONT engine. The rear set remains stationary. Anybody know the poop on this?

It sounds like the narrator was thinking of a Garratt.  Also remember that Lionel Wiener also classified Shays and other geared designs as articulated locomotives.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul

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