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Help with info
Posted by Fox14120 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:17 AM
Been looking around the internet trying to find info on the trains that ran around Buffalo NY during the 40's and 50's and haven't been coming up with much that's useful. Does anyone know of a site or book that has records of what model engine, what numbers the trains were, and pic of the scheme they had during that area?  So far all i've found was the track layout of the city, that it was New York Central and plenty of pics of the station.  Any help will be useful and welcomed and will save me a long ride down to Buffalo. 
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Posted by aricat on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 9:15 AM

The NYC was the dominant railroad in Buffalo and all the big named trains ran through there. The Pennsy had the Buffalo Day Express and the Northern Express; NKP the City of Chicago and City of Cleveland; E-L was still running the Pheobe Snow in 1964. You should be able to find someone who has for sale a NYC schedule or an Official Guide. Also Google New York Central, Hudson and Mowhawk.

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Posted by marthastrainyard on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:52 AM

"The Official Guide of the Railways" will give you most of the information you are looking for. This book was published monthly and you can easily find a copy on eBay. The prices seem to have gone down since I last looked a couple of years ago; now you can get them for around $12-20. Some people even sell CD versions of it.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:28 PM

The Toronto, Hamilton, and Buffalo ran into the NYC station in Buffalo, usually behind Pacifics or Hudsons of the TH&B or of the line's joint owners, NYC and CPR. Diesels took over in the mid-'50s, with the final years of service covered by RDCs.

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Posted by Fox14120 on Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:12 AM

Thanks for all the help looks like these sources should have what i need. Thanks again

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Posted by henry6 on Thursday, July 9, 2009 10:17 AM

Check your library or libraries for history books on the named railroads and even general histories...old maps, Official Guides, specific railroad and general railroad historical societies, local historical societies, back issues of railfan magazines.  Lots and lots and lots of stuff there.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:32 PM

aricat

The NYC was the dominant railroad in Buffalo and all the big named trains ran through there. The Pennsy had the Buffalo Day Express and the Northern Express; NKP the City of Chicago and City of Cleveland; E-L was still running the Pheobe Snow in 1964. You should be able to find someone who has for sale a NYC schedule or an Official Guide. Also Google New York Central, Hudson and Mowhawk.

If we are talking pre-1960 then we can factor in DL&W and Erie trains.

Also Lehigh Valley was also a player until 1961.

 

 

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Posted by tpatrick on Friday, July 24, 2009 10:02 PM

Nickel Plate was in steam during many of those years. I remember seeing Berkshires and Hudsons on the main sometimes doubleheaded. The yard in Buffalo had a fleet of 0-8-0s, many of which were stored there prior to scrapping.

Baltimore and Ohio (the old Buffalo Rochester and Pittsburgh line) still had passenger service pulled by P-5 and P-6 Pacifics as well as some leftovers from BR&P. Buffalo passenger service ended in 1955. Steam freight was mostly Mikados and was mostly gone by 1956, IIRC.

Pennsy had the well known line to Emporium over Keating Summit. Less well known was the Oil City branch which used NKP from Buffalo to Brocton then climbed the escarpment up to Mayville and beyond. Decapods ruled that line until first generation diesels took over. I remember GP7s along that line. No passenger service there.

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