What Train is this?

[Dirtynull]

Hi people

I need help figuring out what trains are those, especially the one on the right (Or maybe they look like some other trains)

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/The-Station-Chicago-Posters_i4193565_.htm

 

Thank you!

[timz]

 The one on the viewer's right is based on a Rock Island E-6, which would make this La Salle St Station, but it isn't really. The skyline is fictional, and the steam engine is too.

[feltonhill]

The diesel looks like an EMD E6 with a FEC paint scheme.  Judging from the buffers on the steam loco, not to mention the unusual cars, I'd say it was European, possibly French.  Great poster, strange assemblage of equipment.

[Dirtynull]

Thank alot guys!

I looked on the web for images and it does look like different EMD series put together.

The thing is that i am building a 3D model of it, that's why i was looking for a name of the train.

Last question, i tried to find some bluebrints of any of those models, havent found anything usefull.

Anyone knows where i can get them?

 

Thanks

[henry6]

An artist's rendition of what the era evokes to him.  No one RR repersented and loco with no headlight could be Eurpean or just a loco with no headlight...It is art rendering not actual depiction.

[wjstix]

It's a generic painting, it's not of any particular real train or trains. The E unit is pretty well reproduced as far as it's physical appearance, and wears a paint scheme similar to several designed by EMD's design team. But AFAIK no railroad used that exact scheme.

I'd say I'm 99% sure the steam engine is British...no headlight, but one marker type headlamp (to the left as you look at it) no pilot (cowcatcher) but two buffers protruding in the front, and no coupler...and is a tank engine to boot (or at least has no tender). Heck, put a face on it, and it's Thomas the Tank Engine!!  US engines had to have a headlight and bell, it's not optional and has been required since long before the events in the painting would have taken place.

It's possible it could be a representation of a UK engine touring the US, like the "Flying Scotsman" did about 40 years ago...but then, they had to add a bell and headlight to it before it could lead trains. I suspect the painter wasn't there, he was perhaps a British artist working second hand from a photo or a RR promotional poster with an E unit on it and he just painted in a British Rail steam engine.

As far as modelling the scene, I'd suggest picking up this book and using it as the basis of your scene:

 

[onequiknova]

 The deisel is a Florida East Coast E3.

 

 

John

[M636C]

While the steam locomotive has some British features, no British locomotive had the high running plate nor the cooling coils for a Westinghouse air brake clearly visible on its right side.

Something about that loco makes me think of a Japanese class C51 pacific, I think they were built with British style buffers and they had that style of smokebox door, although it is not nearly as close as the FEC E unit to any prototype. Even the cars it is hauling makes me think of JNR cars of the 1930s with their many windows.

But it isn't something I'd expect to see at La Salle St.

M636C

[wjstix]

The FEC E-3 looks like the closest match...I don't know if the colors of the painting were intentionally muted or what, but the real engines were pretty bright:

The British locomotives builders did build engines for railroads all over the Empire / World so it certainly could be a UK-built engine but built for service somewhere else.

But ya, it's still kinda like the elephant I shot in my pajamas this morning...how he got into my pajamas, I'll never know.