There's a very good possibility Paul Mantz or Frank Tallman did the "Wings of Eagles" flying, in the post-war years they were the go-to guys for movie flying where Hollywood was concerned.
Speaking of no CGI, how about this classic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnm351D9wkE
Ornhoo, don't worry about what you post here. There's some threads on this Forum that are so out of control, disgustingly so, that I don't think it matters anymore.
It's getting to the point they might as well change "General Discussion" to "General Disgustion."
Great clip from "The Red Shoes!"
I wonder who did the actual flying in "The Wings of Eagles?" I assume either Frank Tallman or Paul Mantz. It's not the greatest John Ford movie ( I much prefer the westerns) but Ward Bond does a great performance as John Ford. That scene cracked me up!
One flying film that was highly under-rated back in the day was "Darling Lili" and no CGI there either.
When this thread was first started two scenes came to mind, but I avoided posting them because the involvement of trains was tangential at best. Recent posts would make it seem that is not a valid concern, so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp2UhFQQb_k
and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRSzrKjYJQ
ORNHOO Overmod But did they bail a little too late, like the guy at Smiths Falls? See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pv9BNE_8MU
Overmod But did they bail a little too late, like the guy at Smiths Falls?
See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pv9BNE_8MU
So cool! Oh so cool! Movies with CGI don't even come close!
No CGI here either...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTv_4DPQUnQ
No, I suppose not. But he did miss them by a good 20 feet... about the same margin as the bailout at Smiths Falls...
OvermodBut did they bail a little too late, like the guy at Smiths Falls?
ORNHOO ...forcing two brakemen to dive for the safety of Pensacola Bay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=838vcxVwXOo
Pensacola Bay? At least the water's warm!
I remember seeing a Charles Bronson film years ago, I think it may have been "Hard Times," where Bronson plays a drifter who's also a bare-knuckle boxer. Set in the 1930's there's a railyard scene with a diesel switcher in operation. After all this time I couldn't tell you what kind but it looked too modern in my estimation to be a 30's unit. It certainly wasn't a CNJ style boxcab!
We saw "Flags Of Our Fathers" when that came out, and one scene had the Iwo Jima flag raisers arriving in Chicago behind a Burlington diesel cab unit. Lady Firestorm leaned into me and whispered "Shouldn't that be steam?" "I'll tell you later," I replied.
It was OK for the period, it was the Burlington E5 from the Illinois Railroad Museum in all its stainless steel glory!
I just saw "The Cincinatti Kid" with Steve Mcqueen. A good movie, like Newman's "The Hustler" but with poker, Edward G. Robinson, Ann-Margaret at her sexy best (yow!) and Cab Calloway of all people. Set in New Orleans in the 1930s, early on he escapes the bad guys by running onto a roundhouse turntable that is moving and holds two Santa Fe diesel switchers. I assume the SF had a yard in New Orleans but the diesels were modern. Still a great flick.
54light15 Ennio Morricone 1928-2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PfrmCGFnk
Ennio Morricone 1928-2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PfrmCGFnk
A true musical genius! How many movie themes can people recognize just by others whistling just the first five notes? Not many.
Arrivederci, Maestro Morricone!
Two great great movies listed back to back. In the Heat of the Night and The Natural. Passenger trains play a pretty important role in both.
Pennys favourite steam locomotive and Peters dead on description of the end of the movie.
Ex-GTW Mikado No. 4070 in The Natural:
4070 in 2017:
Robert Redford sat here:
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
54light15 Speaking of the G. M. & O. this scene reminds me that Rod Steiger was one of the greatest actors ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXfD-Ai_QuA
Speaking of the G. M. & O. this scene reminds me that Rod Steiger was one of the greatest actors ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXfD-Ai_QuA
The closing scene and credits of In the Heat of the Night showing the GM&O train leaving town with a long helicopter shot starting with a view through the window of Sidney Poitier and ending with a view of the whole county is most impressive particularly for the views of the whole train.
Peter
Overmod There is a 'borderline' case in the Spielberg movie of "Duel", where the thing only extends to three blasts of the horn but is nonetheless one of the most memorable things in a memorable movie.
There is a 'borderline' case in the Spielberg movie of "Duel", where the thing only extends to three blasts of the horn but is nonetheless one of the most memorable things in a memorable movie.
Ever notice what the truck has for a front bumper?
A shame it had a Cummins engine and not a Detroit. Would have been fitting for Kettering's two children to team up, which is how that scene seems to play out, especially with the horn 'conversation' at the end.
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Penny Trains Why, and better yet HOW, do people keep putting tenders on backwards!?!?
Why, and better yet HOW, do people keep putting tenders on backwards!?!?
Johnny
Meanwhile there are movies in which recognizable trains are operating but are peripheral to the actual movie. We've commented in the past on the recognizable NYC Alco operating in a couple of scenes in The Pawnbroker. There's an Elvis Presley movie that starts with his arriving on a train powered by a Geep (I think GM&O) which then pulls out replete with glorious 567 music. If I remember correctly there's some parallel action in a couple of scenes in Psycho -- not that many people would be thinking of remembering trains after seeing that movie.
blue streak 1The Brits use trains a lot in their various masterpiece ministries.
I think you meant "mini-series," but that's OK, I got your point right away.
And they certainly do use a lot of steam scenes. The British love their heritage railways!
The Brits use trains a lot in their various masterpiece ministries. There are a lot of station scenes with one of the restored steam engines. Also almost all train scenes have the train departing the station with 2 lower quadrant semaphores showing.
Some shows. Call middwife, father Brown, Endeavor, Downton Abby, etc
An amusing little movie "Loch Ness" deals with an attempt to find the Loch Ness Monster. When the scientist returns to London to discuss his findings, he travels by train. There is a very brief runpast by an electrically hauled BR Inter City train in the cream red and black "Executive" colours.
The interiors, filmed in a MkII open first class car and a Mk I RB buffet are very convincing, to the extent that they may have been filmed in a real train. I can't imagine that the distinctive buffet interior could have been captured in a mock up in what was a fairly low budget movie.
In 1974 I rode across the Tay and Forth bridges in a similar BR buffet, and this movie reminded me of that day.
Penny TrainsDeath, like the "Maschinenmensch" (Machine-man, the robot) was a costumed actor. The costumes were made from "plastic wood" rolled flat and laid over a body casting of Brigitte Helm and sculpted. (If I remember correctly she played all three parts.) So they're not stop-motion.
I learn something every day. For some reason I thought Death was too bony to have someone inside. It would be highly notable that Helm knew how to play a wind instrument!
For those of us that can't play Flash video correctly, here is Penny's linked site:
http://kropserkel.com/robot.html
I have to think, though, that the 'unnamed Canadian stunt woman' is, in fact, the moral heir of Brigitte Helm and deserves to be recognized by name.
54light15 Last night I watched the 1956 film "Giant" with James Dean, Rock Hudson and Liz Taylor. There are some scenes of a Chesapeake and Ohio steam locomotive, not sure of the type, pulling 3 heavyweight passenger cars. Later there are shots of an F3? diesel. There are some interesting cars in it too, such as a Rolls-Royce touring car, a Duesenberg and an Isotta-Fraschini.
Last night I watched the 1956 film "Giant" with James Dean, Rock Hudson and Liz Taylor. There are some scenes of a Chesapeake and Ohio steam locomotive, not sure of the type, pulling 3 heavyweight passenger cars. Later there are shots of an F3? diesel. There are some interesting cars in it too, such as a Rolls-Royce touring car, a Duesenberg and an Isotta-Fraschini.
OvermodThere may, if your information is correct, be an answer to a question I've wondered for over 50 years: what is the exact tune Death plays in the relevant scene? His bony fingers are doing one of the great pre-Harryhausen displays of stop-motion, but too quickly for me to figure out which notes he's sounding -- and I play the recorder. If there is a full orchestral score for that scene -- there will logically be some indication of what the animation is supposed to produce. Wouldn't it be nice if that documentation has survived?
It's a variation (interpretation? extrapolation? impression?) of the Dies Irae with a bit of xylophone played over top. I'd link the clip, but the Maria-bot isn't exactly fully clothed. The composer, Gottfried Huppertz:
http://fimumu.com/huppertz/
...also sampled La Marseilaise. It's his bandmaster's copy of the score that was used a few years back to create the best restoration of the film ever done:
There were notes on the sheet music that allowed them to figure out what scenes were supposed to be shown. But with at least 25% of the original film missing and presumed lost forever (bombed out of existence), they filled in with title cards describing the action or an occasional production still if it fit well enough.
Death, like the "Maschinenmensch" (Machine-man, the robot) was a costumed actor. The costumes were made from "plastic wood" rolled flat and laid over a body casting of Brigitte Helm and sculpted. (If I remember correctly she played all three parts.) So they're not stop-motion.
Check out this page for info on a 2016 recreation of the costume: http://kropserkel.com/metropolis.html
Near the end of Metropolis there is the scene of wrecked cars. Those are Rumpler Tropfenwagens, probably the first car ever to have aerodynamics incorporated into its design. Shaped like a raindrop when viewed from above. That makes sense as Edmund Rumpler was an aircraft engineer in Germany and designed the Taube monoplane. There is one in the main Deutsches Museum in Munich as well as a Tropfenwagen in their transport annex near where they hold the Oktoberfest. The Tropfenwagen was miles ahead of any other car made at the time and remains one of the most slippery cars ever built. Not bad for 1921.
Penny TrainsThe trains of Metropolis:
Penny, pan down. The trains run in that brilliantly-lit canyon at the bottom. You are looking at a transit line, not even a subway.
There may, if your information is correct, be an answer to a question I've wondered for over 50 years: what is the exact tune Death plays in the relevant scene? His bony fingers are doing one of the great pre-Harryhausen displays of stop-motion, but too quickly for me to figure out which notes he's sounding -- and I play the recorder. If there is a full orchestral score for that scene -- there will logically be some indication of what the animation is supposed to produce. Wouldn't it be nice if that documentation has survived?
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