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New River Minning Co

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Posted by SilverSpike on Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:27 PM
First, let me say that this has been a really great thread. Those of you that have the New River Mining model already on your layouts, would you be willing to tell me what areas you are modeling and how you have approached the issue of prototype coal operations with loads and empties. And do you have a coal customer modeled on your layout for coal deliveries, such as a coal fired power plant?

Thanks,

Ryan

Ryan Boudreaux
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Posted by simon1966 on Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:39 PM
Ryan, I am modelling a particular mine in central Illinois. This was a shaft mine from the 20's to the 50's and so I had to make a mine head structure for the mine. The New River was close enough to the tipple that I decided to use it, though faced with the same decision now, I would scratch build the mine structure.

Due to the location on my layout, the trackage is far from ideal for reaslistic opperations. My coal customers are off layout, though I do have a small fuel dealer. For me, the mine is more about creating a specific scene than runnning it prototypically.

Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum

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Posted by SilverSpike on Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:50 PM
Simon,
Thanks for the quick reply! I would like to approximate semi-prototype operations with coal loads coming from the mine then being shipped to a coal power plant.
And I like the idea of using the "off site" as an option to send the loads to a staging area too, that gives more options for other freight types too.

Ryan Boudreaux
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Modeling The Southern Railway, Norfolk & Western & Norfolk Southern in HO during the merger era
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Posted by 304live on Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:32 PM
mine is on a diaroma... so everything is off layout
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Posted by river_eagle on Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:33 PM
took a quick phone photo of car shop to add to weathering pic for tin buildings.

sorry it's not clearer, phones not really set up for high res pics.
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Posted by 304live on Friday, May 26, 2006 12:10 AM
here is some of my weathering... i'd love to get some feedback on it


remember this is the FIRST time ive ever tried to weather anything so any feedback would be appreciated....



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Posted by 304live on Friday, May 26, 2006 12:12 AM
my bad about how big that second one is... i forgot to resize it
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Posted by ulf999 on Friday, May 26, 2006 12:50 AM
For all it's worth, here's my contribution [:)]
http://www.marklin-users.net/applications/forum3/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2968
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Posted by simon1966 on Friday, May 26, 2006 6:45 AM
304live, it looks like you are off to a great start and doing a fine job!

Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum

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Posted by don_csx on Friday, May 26, 2006 8:26 AM
It's not a good as some other showed on here but here is my tipple.

Don

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 26, 2006 9:10 AM
This a great kit. I used three of them to make the following two displays. One for coal, the other for ore.

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Posted by 304live on Friday, May 26, 2006 10:00 AM
the coal mine version of yours looks amazing

i'd say thats the best one that has been posted so far

can you go into how you kitbashed it into what you have?
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Posted by ulf999 on Friday, May 26, 2006 10:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zgardner18

Does anyone have a picture of the real one. If I'm not mastaken the real one is in Colorado. Back when I was in high school, and living in Orem, Utah, we took a trip to Glenwood Springs, and between there and Vail, we headed off to Steamboat Springs, and low and behold there it was. The Mine looked just like the Walther's model that I had back at home. Being only 16, I didn't have my camera at the time, but boy do I wish I could go back and see it again.


Try:
http://www.earthscienceworld.org/images/search/results.html?Keyword=Routt%20County#null
scroll down to "Edna strip mine"
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 26, 2006 11:37 AM
The coal mine required a lot of cutting from two full kits and part of a third to create the tower and chutes. The chutes were so long that I had to add support bents made from Micro Engineering bridge supports.
The weathering was all with an airbrish starting with UP gray mixed with B&O Royal Blue, followed by a wash of grimy black, and an India Ink/achhol mix. A little chalk was added in certain areas for highlights.

Naturally a lot of lights were added. Finally, to fini***he scene, proper lighting is a must to bring out the detail, as a lot of small details were added in and around the scene. On the other side of the hill is a typical West Virginia coal mining town.
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Posted by zgardner18 on Friday, May 26, 2006 11:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ulf999

QUOTE: Originally posted by zgardner18

Does anyone have a picture of the real one. If I'm not mastaken the real one is in Colorado. Back when I was in high school, and living in Orem, Utah, we took a trip to Glenwood Springs, and between there and Vail, we headed off to Steamboat Springs, and low and behold there it was. The Mine looked just like the Walther's model that I had back at home. Being only 16, I didn't have my camera at the time, but boy do I wish I could go back and see it again.


Try:
http://www.earthscienceworld.org/images/search/results.html?Keyword=Routt%20County#null
scroll down to "Edna strip mine"
/Ulf


NICE! Yep that's the one I saw and boy did I wish I had a camera. Thanks for finding that picture.

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Posted by billlong on Friday, May 26, 2006 6:56 PM
Chris aka 304live , Your mining kit is looking great. I would like to see more along with a little tutorial of your methods, colors, etc. Keep the pics coming, you have the makings of a great modeler.[^]Thanks for sharing.[8D]
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Posted by 304live on Friday, May 26, 2006 9:05 PM
thanks bill

next time i get to set down and work on it ill make sure i take a couple more pictures to show what im doing (making it up as i go along) and my reasons for trying what im trying....

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Posted by peterjenkinson1956 on Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:35 AM
don-csx.... just love the yellow paint...fantastic.... makes me want to repaint my model... grey now looks so boring... windows, try scratching some of the windows and put some of the styrene glue onto the window panes..do it randomly and it looks quite good

if anyone can some how get to look at the magazine called.. RAILMODEL JOURNAL.. MARCH 1993.. this has a very good article on the consolidation coal tipple at jenkins kentucky... the article is 10 pages and looks just like the walthers kit

one more thing... have lots of signs.. danger, hard hat area etc it adds a little color..

ps AUSTRALIA to win the soccer world cup
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Posted by steveiow on Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:55 AM
I have this kit still in it's box, will add it to the layout eventually.
All your models look great-I hope mine looks half as good!
Australia for the cup-not a bad bet that,seeing England won't get any where near it.
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Posted by Budliner on Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rgpool45


Naturally a lot of lights were added. Finally, to fini***he scene,


wow that is incredible
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Posted by 304live on Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:58 PM
it is a great looking kitbash....

the lights are a GREAT touch on it... now i know i have to add lights to mine as well...

i am going to drive down the road a few miles sometime soon and take a picture of a mine load out and some conveyor systems for everybody to check out and maybe get some good ideas from

^^^^^
one of the perks of living in west virginia... never more than a little drive from something concerning a mine


does anybody know any roof top accesories that can be added to this.... blowers,vents and the such... i went to the LHS today and checked out the walthers roof top accesories pack but its all for flat roofs and i just dont think my abilities are up to building realistic looking bases to mount them on yet (but i guess you have to start sometime)....

some more idea's ive been given from talking to my father who worked in a coal prep plant for quite a few years about how to make the kit look more realistic was LOADS of conduit and piping on the outside of the building....... as he said most of these building as the equipment on the inside is updated the new wiring is ran out the side of the building to where it needs to go and then into it.... so if this kit is set in a modern setting it would have had its "guts" updated 1-2-3 times from the 50's and would have multiple sets of outside piping/conduit running from the room to room

that is my next project after the weathering (i probebly should have thought the whole thing through before i started... but live and learn) is adding alot of "updates" to it since the kit will be set in the 90's
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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:02 PM
Here's one I did in N scale. It's pretty much just the stock kit; nothing special. Just paint, weathering, and a lot of trees around it.



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Posted by Budliner on Monday, May 29, 2006 11:15 AM
more more
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 29, 2006 12:27 PM
I have both glacier gravel and new river mining and went nuts with the chalk and a air brush. will have some pic's in a few weeks if you can wait.[:(]
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Posted by CSXFan on Thursday, June 1, 2006 9:31 PM
Sorry to bring up an old thread, and this may be a little off topic, but are any of these facilities still used be real railroads? I would like to get one for my modern CSX / Norfolk Southern layout but I don't know how prototypical it would be. Pics would be helpful.
Thanks!
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Posted by simon1966 on Friday, June 2, 2006 7:04 AM
You bet. Coal is still mined all over the US. In fact, in Illinois, coal is making a come back with new mine facilities set to open over the next couple of years.

Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum

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Posted by james saunders on Friday, June 2, 2006 8:05 AM
yep, I'm Definately getting one, i don't know where i will fit it, oh wait i know, on my layout extension!

James.

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Posted by CSXFan on Friday, June 2, 2006 11:58 AM
simon1966,
Thanks for the reply. I found some pics that answer my question also
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Posted by Budliner on Sunday, July 2, 2006 3:17 PM
I still have not got to working on this kit
whats up
I need to get motivated

K
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Posted by Budliner on Friday, July 7, 2006 3:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tom russell

I have both glacier gravel and new river mining and went nuts with the chalk and a air brush. will have some pic's in a few weeks if you can wait.[:(]

hello tom have to see your work
this has to be some of the finest work yet
keep the photos coming

I cant wait to get started on mine

K-

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