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Posted by snjroy on Monday, November 22, 2021 1:39 PM

Anything with an edge on a car can become a base for an icicle.

https://www.alamy.com/a-icicles-with-snow-on-headlights-of-car-image330776357.html

Winter is NOT my favorite season...

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, November 22, 2021 2:02 PM

7j43k
I guess it was too cold to take pictures, then.  I just did a search for "icicles on car", and didn't find anything close.

 
Relax Ed,  I got you coveredSmile, Wink & Grin
 
image courtesy of Matthew Bove
 
 
Thank God for defrostLaugh
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted by Lastspikemike on Monday, November 22, 2021 3:04 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/science/why-icicles-look-the-way-they-do.html

If you really want to know why. The guy has a PhD in physics apparently. Icicles aren't what they seem to be.

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Posted by selector on Monday, November 22, 2021 5:46 PM

There are two anchor wells on the bow of this ship.  The starboard well has, just to its right and above, as we look at it, a well-curved icicle.  I wouldn't call the tip of that fat one pointed down, with gravity, except in the broadest sense.  It looks to be curved, scimitar fashion, toward the well.

ice buildup on ships - Bing images

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Posted by Billwiz on Monday, November 22, 2021 6:12 PM

speedybee
Hey all. I'm thinking of building a winter theme portable module

Hi Speedtbee!

So sorry that your original post has morphed.  I'd like to ask a question.  Are you looking to create a "holiday/snow" scene or a prototypical "this is what the snow looks like after a few days" theme?  One is very beautiful, "White Christmas-like" while the other more like Fine Scale Miniatures with the dirt and dinge of industrial life.

With the idea of a portable layout to take places, I think you would like a Christmas Card winter scene, however for any of us to make that assumption is incorrect.  Let us know, and perhaps we can get back to your request.

I'm hoping we can truly answer your question simply.

 

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 9:41 AM

Track fiddler

 

 
7j43k
I guess it was too cold to take pictures, then.  I just did a search for "icicles on car", and didn't find anything close.
 

 

 
Relax Ed,  I got you coveredSmile, Wink & Grin
 

image courtesy of Matthew Bove

 
 
Thank God for defrostLaugh
 
 
 
 
 
 
TF
 

Pretty good illustration of an icefall.

Also, why not to park at the waterfront during a winter storm.

Mitsubishi Evo maybe? 

Heres a link to a parked and icicle trimmed passenger car (railroad)

 https://www.123rf.com/photo_70672594_detailed-photo-of-a-frozen-car-passenger-train-with-icicles-and-ice-on-its-surface-railway-in-the-co.html

 

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 2:00 PM

 Returning back to the topic of modeling snow:

The best snow I have seen was in a series of articles (circa late 90’s) in MR (previously mentioned in this thread). The modeler was Rand Hood and the snow and ice looked great.

A more recent snow modeler is Mike Confalone. He has some great looking snow on his layout as well.

One of my local modeling buddies had a great snow scene on his layout. He used plaster, paint and reflective crystals to give the snow that “sparkly” look. The snow did get dirty from time to time but he was able to keep it looking pretty good with a soft brush and vacuum cleaning every once in a while.

As with all extreme scenery techniques, I would practice first before the snowstorm hits the layout.

Guy

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 2:06 PM

trainnut1250
 

As with all extreme scenery techniques, I would practice first before the snowstorm hits the layout.

Guy

 

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Posted by Lastspikemike on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 6:20 PM

Were I doing this and were I looking for a realistic look rather than a fairy tale look I'd be tempted to do an early snowfall or a late Spring thaw effect, keeping snow effects away from the track itself.

If the scenery is hilly or mountainous then start at the hilltops and work down.

In some dry areas there is an interesting phenomenon perfect for modelling. The tree line is reversed. Trees only grow on hilltops because they depend on winter snow accumulation for water reserves during the hot dry summers. There is only enough annual precipitation to grow trees because the snowmelt soaks in and is shaded by the trees. One environmental issue arises when you try to lumber those trees because once the tree cover is gone new trees won't grow. Removing  the shade dries out the ground and the snow melt runs away. So around here and in central BC dry country you see desert grass, sagebrush and scrub up to a certain level corresponding to the winter snow line and trees only above that line.

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Posted by speedybee on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 8:34 PM

Billwiz
Are you looking to create a "holiday/snow" scene or a prototypical "this is what the snow looks like after a few days" theme?  One is very beautiful, "White Christmas-like" while the other more like Fine Scale Miniatures with the dirt and dinge of industrial life.

With the idea of a portable layout to take places, I think you would like a Christmas Card winter scene

Yes, more of a "White Christmas" type scene. I do intend to use proper buildings on the layout, not gingerbread houses or Lemaxian structures, but I am aiming for the idyllic village covered by recent/ongoing snowfall look. Everything covered in at least a few inches of new snow. Should be easier to model that way too.

I think my next step is to just work out doing good snow coverage on a large area and for that I'll pick up some white flat paint, white sparkles, and probably try some WS snow, and do some experimenting. Later I'll work on getting the icicles to be pointed at appropriate angles

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 9:58 PM

speedybee
Yes, more of a "White Christmas" type scene.

Those are the best scenes for railroad layouts.

Will the snow be permanent on the module?

-Kevin

Wink Happily modeling my STRATTON & GILLETTE RAILROAD. A Class A line located in a personal fantasy world of semi-plausible nonsense on Tuesday, August 3rd, 1954.

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Posted by Billwiz on Wednesday, November 24, 2021 7:59 AM

speedybee
Yes, more of a "White Christmas" type scene.

I have used the Woodland Scenics snow and added a little glitter for sparkles.  Mine was a portable Christmas layout for our church's annual Polar Express event.  I also used some "hobby snow" which were little round foam balls that got everywhere and looked terrible.

One thought, check out the Classic Toy Trains site and forum - many have done winter scenes which might give you some inspiration and guidance.

Send us pictures when you get started!

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, November 24, 2021 8:26 AM

I used to set up a layout in the living room, every year for Christmas.  I used WS snow, and white latex caulk for street scenes.

Mike.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, November 24, 2021 8:29 AM

mbinsewi
I used to set up a layout in the living room, every year for Christmas

Mike, I love the last picture. The scene looks great.

-Kevin

Wink Happily modeling my STRATTON & GILLETTE RAILROAD. A Class A line located in a personal fantasy world of semi-plausible nonsense on Tuesday, August 3rd, 1954.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, November 24, 2021 8:38 AM

Thanks Kevin, the first picture is way to blurry.  I wish I would've taken more pictures  of the complete layout.  I had perfected ( in my eyes) the bare tree look.

Mike.

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, November 24, 2021 8:17 PM

Mike, I love the ice fishing scene.  That's perfect.

Mike

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, November 24, 2021 10:01 PM

Water Level Route
Mike, I love the ice fishing scene.

I did not even notice they were ice-fishing!

This activity has no point of reference in my life.

Laugh

-Kevin

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, November 27, 2021 1:56 AM

A longtime friend created this snow scene...

 

I did the detail work on the plow, and built the tender which accompanies it.

Wayne

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, November 27, 2021 10:08 AM

Nice scene Wayne.  It looks like the real heavy wet "mashed potato" snow.

Mike.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:18 AM

doctorwayne
A longtime friend created this snow scene.

That looks beautiful. The photography is also excellent.

-Kevin

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, November 28, 2021 1:41 PM

Thanks for the kind comments, guys.  I've passed them on to my friend, who thanks you as well.

Wayne

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