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Version 5 of The CB&Q in Wyoming

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 10:45 PM

Mark,

When I visit here to see how you're doing, it always inspires me to "get back to work".  I know that's a crude way of putting it.

That said, it is not your job to do that for me/us.  I hope you know that, and are doing this wonderful work for your own benefit.  Mostly.

Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to share what you're doing.

 

 

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Posted by JoeinPA on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 4:00 PM

Mark it's coming along beautifully. At this pace I hope you don't  run out of gas. I'm enjoying watching your progress and can't wait to see what is next. Who stole the bell on 6302?

Joe

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:14 AM

Thanks Douglas!

12 January 2022

And... work continues.

I finished the fence to the top of the peninsula:

By the 5th I had the approach to Thermopolis worked out and the subroadbed installed.

I also replaced the alligator-clipped temporary wiring at Powder River with the permanent wiring. I'll add cable clamps as necessary to keep the wire up under the Riverton deck. When I get secondary trackage installed at Riverton, feeders will connect to this barrier strip.

I took a couple of days and cleaned up, inventoried and organized all my flextrack. Some has been used on at least three layouts now, and probably more than that in some cases. On this set of shelves, top to bottom, is: ME Code 55 - just a few sticks; Peco code 70 - about half a scale mile, and a couple sticks of ME code 70 behind the Peco; Atlas code 83 - about 2 1/2 scale miles; and on the bottom shelf is a ton of Atlas code 100 - around nine scale miles (that will be used for most hidden track on the layout, but I'm sure I have much more than I'll need)!

On the 6th I laid the roadbed on the Thermopolis approach, and on the 9th I laid the big turnback curve:

On the 10th I tested the new curve with a train.

I really like how the superelevation looks.

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Posted by Doughless on Monday, January 3, 2022 3:38 PM

I enjoyed both new videos very much.  The scenery looks great. 

- Douglas

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, January 3, 2022 2:12 PM

Thanks David, Ray, Dave and Ed!

Bear, we can always count on you for a good laugh!

Believe me, nobody questions Mark's abilities more than Mark does.

3 January 2022

I just uploaded my latest layout update video:

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, January 2, 2022 11:07 PM

little faith by Bear, on Flickr

"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."

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Posted by 7j43k on Sunday, January 2, 2022 9:07 AM

I really like the brief overhead view of Casper, towards the end.  

And when the train comes around the final curve, the backdrop is quite successful.

Inspiring.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, January 1, 2022 9:02 PM

Hi Mark,

That is an impressive run! It really gives you a feel for how large the layout is and how effectively you have used the available space.

Happy New Year!

Dave

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Posted by Colorado Ray on Saturday, January 1, 2022 6:01 PM

richhotrain

Well done, Mark. That brief scene beginning around 6:50 is spectacular.

Rich

 

 

Thumbs Up

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, January 1, 2022 10:05 AM

Impressive,  Mark.   Well done.

 

David

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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, January 1, 2022 9:58 AM

Thanks ATSFGuy and Rich!

The run from Casper to Hudson is about 130 feet, or a bit under two scale miles in length. When the line gets all the way to Lander (the end of the line) it will add about another half scale mile.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, January 1, 2022 7:27 AM

Well done, Mark. That brief scene beginning around 6:50 is spectacular. How long is that CNW run?

Rich

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:54 AM

Pruitt:

Looks good so far, keep us updated!

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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:10 AM

Here are a few screenshots / photos of the first train to traverse the entire finished track from Casper to Hudson.

Our train in Casper yard:

The view from the locomotive pilot:

The train making its way up the grade on the peninsula:

And our train after it arrived in Hudson.

Some of the wiring is jury-rigged right now, but permanent wiring will be installed in the next few days.

I posted a video of the first train trip:

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, December 31, 2021 6:30 AM

Pruitt

YES!!!

GOAL MET!

Mainline in through Riverton, connecting all the way to Hudson. A loco and a few cars were run back and forth to test the new line.

Photos and maybe a video to follow tomorrow, after I have a chance to clean up most of the construction debris. 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, December 31, 2021 6:00 AM

Pruitt

YES!!!

GOAL MET!

Mainline in through Riverton, connecting all the way to Hudson. A loco and a few cars were run back and forth to test the new line.

 

We were never in doubt!  Big Smile

 

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Posted by Pruitt on Thursday, December 30, 2021 11:44 PM

YES!!!

GOAL MET!

Mainline in through Riverton, connecting all the way to Hudson. A loco and a few cars were run back and forth to test the new line.

Photos and maybe a video to follow tomorrow, after I have a chance to clean up most of the construction debris.

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 10:42 PM

Rich, Scott, Dave, David, thanks for the kind words!

Rich, the goal is in sight! All I have to do is build two turnouts and lay about 15 feet of track and I'll have the connection done. I'll still need to connect feeders and such, but for the short term alligator clips will get me power to run to Hudson on the 31st.

28 December 2021

A few days ago I finished the framework for Riverton with this area:

Then I cut and laid the plywood subroadbed for the town of Riverton.

A couple days ago I glued down the cork sheet, then yesterday I laid out the track arrangement for the town.

Today I laid track into the end of Riverton, to the turnout for the siding. Tomorrow I'll build that turnout.

Track has been tested all the way up. Trains run smoothly the entire way, but the grade is a challenge for the Ten-Wheeler! With six cars and a caboose it loses traction in a few spots. I need to refresh the Bullfrog Snot. Not a big issue though - trains were very short on this line, and they moved rather slowly. Four or five cars plus caboose behind the Ten-Wheeler is about right. A Consolidation handles seven cars and caboose with no slipping. Since that's the absolute maximum train length for this line, everything looks good to go on the climb up to the second deck.

Finally, I installed the first section of fencing at the base of the CNW line, beginning where it will dive out of sight into the mountain. Right now there's nothing to prevent equipment from falling all the way to the floor (nearly six feet at the top) if there's a bad derailment. The fencing will run both sides of the track all the way up, to prevent such a disaster. I'll have to test clearances with a passenger car (a Doodlebug with trailer - a passenger car - is the typical passenger equipment for this line).

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, December 20, 2021 5:49 AM

hon30critter

Hi Mark,

I just want to say thanks for all the photos and videos that you take the time to produce. The whole process has been very interesting and it is fun to watch the layout develop.

Cheers!!

Dave   

 

 

I agree with Dave.   A wonderful layout progressing really well.

 

David

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, December 19, 2021 8:49 PM

Hi Mark,

I just want to say thanks for all the photos and videos that you take the time to produce. The whole process has been very interesting and it is fun to watch the layout develop.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by Lakeshore Sub on Sunday, December 19, 2021 8:22 PM

I also think this great work Mark.  Love seeing the western most end of the CNW come to life.

Scott

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:43 PM

Pruitt

Next step is finish the subroad across the peninsula, then lay track. There's an outide chance (very outside!) that I'll get the line connected into the existing track above Casper by the end of the year, allowing me to run a train all the way from Casper to Hudson. 

Nice work, as always, Mark. I have my fingers crossed that you can connect that line from Casper to Hudson by year end.

Rich

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Posted by Pruitt on Sunday, December 19, 2021 11:25 AM

19 December 2021

I was under the weather the last couple of weeks with a cold. Until about Wednesday this past week I did very little on the layout. Once I was feeling better I got started again, though...

I was about to the point where I needed to connect the CNW subroadbed that was climbing behind the scenes of the Wind River Canyon peninsula to the visible second level that runs along the wall above Casper. So it was time to finish planning out the Riverton and connecting benchwork in detail. Here's what I came up with:

The track at the bottom of the image is on the peninsula. Orange is benchwork framing members.

Unfortunately Riverton is a front-to-back mirror image of the real town. I'd initially planned to have it closely match the prototype (except for compression), but that would put the industries on the front edge of the benchwork. With the benchwork at my shoulder level, this was just asking for trouble every time the town was switched, so I flipped the town (vertically in the plan) to place the industries behind the sidings. 

Once the benchwork details were fully planned out, I got to work actually building it. Here the wall-side stringer is placed:

And in the shot below the aisleway stringer is mounted. I had a problem with how to support the protruding corner of the benchwork, and the best I could come up with was to suspend the corner from the ceiling using a threaded rod. I certainly didn't want to install a leg up from the lower level. 

Here's a bit better view of that area, taken from near the ceiling.

Just two bits of benchwork left to install for Riverton - the stringer in the tapered section you can see missing just beyond the threaded rod, and one more cross joist out of frame to the right.

Here's an overall view of the area, showing the CNW line connected in to the upper level benchwork at the far end. I had to go back and re-grade the line across part of the peninsula in order to get a good fit to the second deck. That wasn't a surprise - I expected to have to do that. Took all of about an hour.

Next step is finish the subroad across the peninsula, then lay track. There's an outside chance (very outside!) that I'll get the line connected into the existing track above Casper by the end of the year, allowing me to run a train all the way from Casper to Hudson.

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Posted by Pruitt on Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:41 PM

Thanks Dave, Crandell!

Chris, I use my Samsung Galaxy S21+ phone to do all the video recordings except for the occasional cab-ride views, for which I use an Osmo Pocket (the first one, not the 2). I have a standard camera tripod that I mount the Samsung on (I bought a mount for it for about ten bucks) when I'm doing most of the recording.

All the editing is done using the free version of DaVinci Resolve (currently version 17). It's very powerful, and doesn't stick a watermark in the middle of the video. It's also not limited in terms of number of effects or anything. All the titles and special effects are done there, as well as adding background music and mixing all the audio together.

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Posted by ChrisVA on Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:14 PM

Mark,

Question regarding how you make your YouTube videos. What do you use for recording the actual video? An IPhone? Some other camcorder? I'm curious what equipment you use as I want to learn how to do this also.

Thanks!
Chris

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Posted by selector on Friday, December 3, 2021 11:46 PM

Mark, your craftsmanship is to be admired.  And, you're smoking along at a pretty torrid pace.  Maybe not fast enough for your liking, but I think you're being sensible and patient about it, and it shows.  Really nice work.

When you show the latest cork roadbed over the re-graded length, if you don't mind a suggestion, I think it would look more natural if you 'wound' a bit, or had even a slight concave curve there...if possible.  I don't have a good handle on the terrain around there, but you show yourself using the straightedge, and that isn't going to be likely on a grade.  Just my a suggestion. Smile, Wink & Grin

Edit - Okay, you explain later that it's hidden, so you're right down the...umm..pike.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, December 3, 2021 11:24 PM

Hi Mark,

Another great update video! Thanks.

Just a suggestion: At my old club we used landscape fabric to form a temporary net along the open roadbed. It's cheap, quite strong and easy to install with a staple gun. Of course Murphy's Law dictated that the one engine to fall to the floor did so where there was no landscape fabric. It also had to be a brand new loco that had run all of 20 ft. before it hit the floor.Crying

Get well soon!

Dave

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Posted by Pruitt on Friday, December 3, 2021 10:56 PM

3 December 2021

I just posted my latest layout update video:

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 11:10 PM

Thanks David, Rich and RaySmile I appreciate the comments.

Ray, I think the superelevation adds a lot to the overall appearance. Using layered masking tape makes it easy and pretty quick to do. The long curve at the entrance to the canyon (the first curve after the Shobon turnout) was the longest, and it probably took all of 20 minutes to add the tape.

30 November 2021

Things are continuing to move along. A few days ago I pulled the Burlington power district buss wires into the peninsula. 

I added subroadbed for the Burlington's turnback curve at the free end of the peninsula (that's the lower one):

Then I laid new track almost up to that curve. I had to stop because I need to extend the subroadbed and roadbed into Thermopolis in order to superelevate the turnback curve, which means I have to detail out the track arrangement in Thermopolis, which I haven't done yet. I may take a road trip to Thermopolis in the next few days (it's about two hours from here) to look for ideas.

Meanwhile I completed laying the CNW turnback curve track, and ran a train from Casper to the end of track to test it out.

And today I finished running the buss wires and feeders to all completed track. Red and green wires are for the Burlington power district, while white and black are the CNW district wires.

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