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Posted by rcdrye on Monday, January 17, 2022 11:12 AM

Just a guess but it looks like the station name was Dunwoodie (MP 8.09).

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, January 17, 2022 4:19 AM

And one more Riverdale Avenue:

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, January 16, 2022 7:33 AM

Note caption correction for preceding photo.

Here, the north end of the Tuskahoe Road Line at the New York Central Putnam Division station at the intersection of Tuckahoe Road and Railroad Avenue.  Anyone knoiw the name of the station?

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, January 14, 2022 2:13 AM

Same location, south terminal nof Yonkers' Riverdale Avenue Line at the New York City Line, as the photo of regular "8" car 354 ear;ier.  At the north end of the line-up, looking south, fan-trip cars  371 and 327, with regular car 354 at the rear:

On the "6" Tuckahoe Road Line on Walnut Street just north of Yonkers Avenue, with Pond Road entering from the left.  Formerly, end of double track from Yonkers Avenue at this point.

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:38 AM

Corrections made to previous captions from tnformation from Henry Raudenbush

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, January 10, 2022 11:23 AM

The name of that organization was Metro Transit Club.  The upper photo is (I think) southbound on Neperhan Avenue, the "5" Line.  I thought the lower one was in New Rochelle on the loop cicling the downtown area, with a stop at the eralroad station, but I may be mistaken, and  it may be another Yonkers photograph.

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, January 8, 2022 10:49 AM

from Henry Raudenbush:

Riverdale had more buildings of this type, but Riverdale was been turned into a dual highway by demolition of all the buildings on a least one side.
The dash sign “New Yok Express”  was a concoction of a group that was promoting the idea of turning the abandoned Getty Square branch of the NY Central Putnam Division into a light rail line, giving several of the TARS lines a reserved right of way from Getty Square, down to the Van Cortland subway terminal, parallel to local service on Broadway.  Warburton Ave would have been one of the possible connecting routes.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, January 7, 2022 2:37 AM

two more on Yonkers' Riverdale Avenue:

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:01 AM

Picture taken a  few moments be fore the above picture;

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, January 3, 2022 10:24 PM

Fan-trip car at Laake & Neperhan on the Lake Av. connector between the "5," Neperhan and "6" Tuckahoe Rd. Lines. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:03 AM

After a short period in 1937, year of construction tn the 65th Street shop, when it was a conduit car in Manhattan, 381 ran with poles on Ogden Avenue, The Bronx (both ends of that route in Manhattan, W. 155th & Amsterdam Avenue and W. 181st & B'way) until Summer 1947.  Whenb that line went bus, it was on Boston Road, shoewn in  thne next two photos, before moving to Yonkers.

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, October 1, 2021 6:46 AM

Jack May photo of 629 at Branford:

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, September 11, 2021 4:48 PM

More 125th St., Martin Luther King Blvd., today.   Looking west, west of the bend, with the high station of the Broadway IRT in the background:

And the rear of a car from Marble Hill turning onto 3rd Avenue to reverse at a crossover, just south of the intersection, or to proceed south to the 65th Street Carhouse.

65th Street Carhouse interior:

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, September 9, 2021 8:03 AM

Regarding the bend in 125th Street, Henry Raudenbush supplied this current map:

In the photo and my memory. La Salle went through to join 125th St.   St. Nicholas Ave. is a through street, 11th -168th Street, but it has lots of curves.

Note the signs of the switch removed the horsecar-then=battery line that b ranched off 125th using Hancock Place (w2as at one time Manhattenville vAvenue) and St. Nicholas Avenue to 110th Street, then East to 1st Avenue

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, September 6, 2021 3:01 AM

One technically good photo at Bronx Park West and Fordham Road, a Souther Boulevard car adjacent to the bus replacement of the Fordham - 207th St. Croostown.   And one that could be better on 125th Street looking west.

 

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, August 28, 2021 8:19 PM

I'd heard of that hell-bound train, but not this.

"He came awake with an anguished roar/And prayed and prayed on that barroom floor/And his prayers and vows were not in folly/For he never rode that hell-bound trolley"

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, August 28, 2021 2:50 PM

Two more.  One aside West Farms carhouse, with an odd sign on Westchster Avenue , the A line, but I suppose this operator's assignment took him to the Tremont Avenue line, as well.  Consequently, the defaced dash sign.

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, August 27, 2021 10:01 AM

Apologies for the duplicate photo.  But here are three more..  All three already  had photos posted, but in different locations and even in conduit service in Manhattan.  114 and 391 were originally conduit cars.  All three cars  were homebuilt lightweightds. built 1935-1936.

On Boston Road looking north south of the intersection where the 2 and 5 on the elevated structure turn from Southern Boulevard to Boston Road

Further south, looking south, on Boston Road

And here the B stands for Bailey Avenue, not Boston Road.  (TATS had  4 Bs, 2 Ts, 2 Vs, 2 Ss, 2As, and 7 Xs.) 

 

 

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:09 PM

Ex-Manhattan 140 near West Farms Carhouse on Boston Road and ex-Ogden Avenue with bright sunlight and the elevated structure's shadows maximizing contrast:

 

A much earlier posting on this thread does show 140 as a Manhattan conduit car.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 26, 2021 7:01 AM

More Third Avenue Transit photos:

A Southern Blvd. car on Boston Road, north of the intersection with Southern Blvd. appraching West Farms Car House:

 

381 operating as a Bailey Avenue car:

Different day, as a Boston Road car:

Two of the same car on the siding adjacent to the West Farms Carhouse:

140 on Boston Road near the West Farms Car House:

352 at Southern Boulevard and--- E. 152nd St.?   E. 162nd St.?

 

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 26, 2021 6:44 AM

Regarding above posts deleted..

There were incidents of catcher-ropes breaking in Brooklyn, old cars re-activated for WWII icreased riswersip and one line's restoration.  But 128. the entire 101-200, 391-400, and 6236-645 ex-Manhattan conduit cars received new trolley ropes.

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, August 23, 2021 11:18 AM

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:12 PM

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, August 19, 2021 11:22 AM

South end of the Southern Boulevard Line at 133rd Street and north end, on tracks shared by the "C" Bronx and Van Courtland Parks line, at Bronx Park Wesr and Fordham Road.   668 lost its oriignial trucks as applied to the 646-685 cars and now rides on trucks intended for the 626-645 Manhattsn cars, which got poles for Bronox service in April 1947, like 629 behind, now at Branford (www.shorelinetrolley.oorg).  All these cars were built in 1939 and were the last new streetcars for New York City.  (The Brooklyn PCCs came in 1936, and the second-hand New Bedford cars in 1947 for Queensboro Bridge.)

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, July 25, 2021 3:21 AM

also posted on the Remembering the Third Avenue Elevated thread:

A Joe Franks picture, looking east at the Elevated's Fordham Road Station.  The Third Avenue Transit sweeper and relocated ex-Manhattan Streetcar are both on one od the two stub tracks that remain from the long-gone 3rd Avenue Bronx streetcar line, not on the Fordham Road tracks used by the X 207-Fordham Crosstown, and C Bronx and Van Courtland Park regular cars.  Others assumed that the train of composites on the Elevated's center track is a Through Express from 241 St. to City Hall, but both morning and evening Through Expresses operated on the local track of the correct direction, since they made all stops north of Tremont Avenue.  Instead, it is morning Through Express equipment running light returning from City Hall to its regular lay-up location on the center track between Fordham Road and Gun Hill Road:

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, June 29, 2021 11:37 AM

301 - 400 were built in the 3rd Av. & 65th St. Shop in 1936 - 1937.  301-390 were pole cars, mostly assigned to Yonkers, some to the "A" New Rochelle - Subway, and 5 or 6 to Ogden Avenue, The Bronx.  391 - 400 were Manhattan conduit cars, initially serving with some of the 101 - 200 cars on Broadway - 42nd Street, but beginning in 1948 replaced by the double-end Peter-Witt "Huffliners" and transfered to 3rd and Amsterdam ("T") and 125th St St. Nich & B;way, ("K" for Kingsbridge).

At Amsterdam & 145th St., both the T and the K crossed the  conduit & wire 149th St. Crosstown X.  Connecting curves were used by the one-car, every 45-minutes B'way-145th St. line.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, June 8, 2021 4:27 AM

Interior of the 65th Street and Third Avenue Carhouse, main floor:

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, June 8, 2021 4:10 AM

185 is at the intersection where 125th turns from going directly west to a nrthwest alignment.  Third Avenue had a horsecar, then battery-car line that used the connecting street south-east to 110th Street, and then 110th to the East River.  Note that the eastbound switchpoint has not been removeed, even in 1947, more than 20 years after the switch ceased being used.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 2:59 AM

Looking NE on Westchester Avenue, with the edlevated structure still used by the Lexington Avenue "6" train.  Year 1939 home-built 651 was normally used on the "Pelhsm Bar Parkway.T" Tremont & Burnside Avernues Line, but here carries a removable plate X - 167th Street Crioxsxtowsn.  Westchester Avenue is its eastern terminal.  Eds are chanhged on the northbound track also used by Westchester Avenue "A" cars to Pelham Bay Parkway.

 

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