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Contractors Want An Additional $1B - Admit California Line Will Not Open in 2030

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Posted by MidlandMike on Thursday, August 11, 2022 9:02 PM

Former Car Maintainer

 

 
BaltACD

Were the Egyptian pyramids completed 'On Time and Under Budget'?

 

 

 

Good analogy: Both pyramid and HSR were envisioned by political demagogues, built as a tribute to themselves, and serve no useful purpose....

 

Egyptian pyramid building was refined over decades, and its simple shape belies its complex internal structure.  As well at teaching the ancients how to build massive structures, and organize complex projects, it is said that these projects help unify the kindom.  All civilizations build monuments, but how many are still standing after 4500 years, and draw visitors from all over the world, supporting a tourist industry almost as old.

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Friday, August 12, 2022 5:56 PM

charlie hebdo
This is supposed to be a forum about passenger trains, which include HSR. But every time there is a post about HSR, we get a chorus of right wing political posts condemning modern trains. We all get it,. You hate the government, hate HSR. Post if you have a constructive comment.

  Well, excuse me, but they ARE constructive comments. 

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Posted by Former Car Maintainer on Sunday, October 9, 2022 1:50 PM
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Posted by alphas on Sunday, October 9, 2022 3:42 PM

[quote user="Former Car Maintainer"]

"$1.8M daily costs for bullet"

 

Remeber the old saying "What's one man's expenses is another man's income"?    I bet all those working on this project at every level hope it lasts indefinitely.    Unfortunately, this seems to be the normal for major goverment projects on the federal level and in too many of our states.

 

 

 

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Posted by NKP guy on Monday, October 10, 2022 8:27 AM

Finally, an informative essay on the topic that's an easy to read and understand by the average lay person:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/09/us/california-high-speed-rail-politics.html

 

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Posted by rdamon on Monday, October 10, 2022 11:25 AM
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Posted by Overmod on Monday, October 10, 2022 12:34 PM

Didn't the Swiss build a base tunnel under the Alps, something like a tenth of the direct route between LA and SF, in less time?

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, October 10, 2022 12:35 PM

Didn't the Swiss build a base tunnel under the Alps, something like a tenth of the direct route between LA and SF, in less time?

And, I think, for less money?

If I remember correctly, the whole of the Millau Viaduct, self-launching erection and dummy piers included, was something like the equivalent of $300M when it was built.

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Posted by Former Car Maintainer on Monday, October 10, 2022 5:24 PM

NKP guy

Finally, an informative essay on the topic that's an easy to read and understand by the average lay person:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/09/us/california-high-speed-rail-politics.html

 

 

Looks like the Times implying that there is more money in it, if the bullet train never opens..

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Posted by Gramp on Monday, October 10, 2022 5:27 PM

 The US has "hardening of the arteries".

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, October 10, 2022 6:18 PM

BaltACD
being credited to driving the Italian national airline Alitalia into bankruptcy.

Which is not saying much because it was a very poorly run state enterprise before.   Not sure if they went private or not but most business folks spread around to avoid Alitalia.   I know it was a strong avoid at IBM.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, October 10, 2022 6:20 PM

Overmod
Didn't the Swiss build a base tunnel under the Alps, something like a tenth of the direct route between LA and SF, in less time?

What was the total cost of that?   If I remember correctly the Swiss could not afford it on their own and had to go to the EU.    Vague memory though, could be wrong on that.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, October 10, 2022 9:57 PM

The politically maneuvered Palmdale dogleg remindes me of the NEC proposed upgrades to run the line straighter between the NY area and Boston.  Providence effectivally killed any proposal that didn't dogleg thru their town.

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