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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, March 7, 2021 2:49 PM

As of 1:00, the following did NOT have accessible schedules: Adirondack, Cascades, Carolinian, Downeaster, Empire, Ethan Allen, Heartland, Hiawatha, Illinois, Keystone/Pennsylvanian, Maple Leaf, Michigan, Missouri River Runner, NEC1 and 2 (2 doesn't even have a clickable link!), NE Regional, San Joaquins, Vermonter, and Virginia Service.

Interestingly I reported via the 'feedback' tab that the Capitol Limited schedule was down -- it is now available.  Don't know if that's cause and effect but I reported the others.

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:45 PM

Lithonia Operator

In addition to the Pennsylvanian, none of the Philly-Harrisburg Keystone trains have a timetable accessible on the Amtrak website either.

 

On the main page, just select HAR - PHL (or other way around), your departrue date and find trains.  It will list them all (8 I think on a weekday). 

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Posted by MMLDelete on Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:21 PM

In addition to the Pennsylvanian, none of the Philly-Harrisburg Keystone trains have a timetable accessible on the Amtrak website either.

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Posted by matthewsaggie on Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:03 PM

The ones I was interested in eete all there- Cardinal,  Crescent, Capital, and City of NO with their days of operation. Sorry yours weren't. 

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Posted by MMLDelete on Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:16 PM

We've now bought our tickets for a trip on the Pennsylvanian in June. We called on the phone. So now we finally know when it leaves! It's not the time shown on that railfan's timetable; but to be fair, I don't know the vintage of that webpage.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:59 PM

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Try: Amtrak.com/timetables.html They're all there.

Ah, did you actually click on one to see the schedule?

Go to that page, click on the Pennsylvanian, and then report back here the times it says for Philadelphia...

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Posted by matthewsaggie on Tuesday, March 2, 2021 6:04 PM

Try:

Amtrak.Com/timetables.html

There all there. Dont know why thete is not a working link on the Amtrak website.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, February 25, 2021 8:27 PM

Amtrak's aim with their web site is just CYA - to say 'we have a web site'.

The web site is designed to discourage anyone from wanting to us Amtrak.

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, February 25, 2021 11:03 AM

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Quadruple post??

This one is only incidentally associated with the 'Pittsburgh-Indianapolis' trip... or the revised grand excursion from Maine...

[EDIT -- jeez! how did that happen?  And you wouldn't believe how long it took to fix the four of them; the Web site kept saving and 'updating' the deleted posts if I didn't back out far enough.  Whether this is a Kalmbach thing or a 'new and improved' criOS thing (it was updated several days ago) I don't know yet.  It's double-posted at least 3 other times since then...]

Lithuania noted that when he tried to get schedule information for the Pennsylvanian, from the tab labeled 'schedule' in the train's Amtrak Web page, he got nothing but an ultimately-irrelevant notice about train service being cut back in the pandemic.  It then transpired that any attempt to find a schedule for that train produced the same worthlessness.

I have now verified that the only way to get times for that train is to 'book', tediously specify endpoints, and take notes, essentially just as on the kiosk in the Memphis Central Station.

This also differs critically from the Amtrak Web-site look and feel threads or the bewail-absence-of-system-timetable thread, because this deals with finding specific data for a specific train knowing its name and general route.

One other interesting detail: the Amtrak booking page is configured to use the calendar date as default whether or not there's still an available train that day... and gives a cryptic message very like that discussing the triweekly cutbacks when you innocently 'search for trains' that have already left.  It will NOT show you those trains as scheduled to run that day, but already departed...

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:44 AM

Quadruple post?? 

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:09 AM

I reloaded the app.  Of course there is no schedule (I see the USRail app for iOS features a clickable map with stations).  You have to 'book', then specify your endpoints (or scroll through an interminable list that resets to the beginning every time).

I ran the test for the Pennsylvanian; for Friday to Monday it shows as leaving Moynihan-NYP at 10:52am and arriving 7:59pm.  Interestingly, coach was $65 both Sunday and Monday, down from $82.  I did not think to run the numbers from Philadelphia instead of NYC.

You could also spend a mint and ride "multiple trains" to arrive nearly at midnight, although if that's via the Capitol something is badly wrong with the earlier-indicated arrival at Chicago...

Supposedly there is Keystone service (train 641) with an execrable through bus connection, leaving earlier at 7:17am and getting to Pittsburgh by 6:40.

As I was offered push buttons to lock in my rate, and a useful if accurate bar showed prospective occupancy (hopefully calculated for social distancing) I think we can conclude this is still a 7-day-a-week train with no weird weekend changes...

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:08 AM

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:05 AM

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:05 AM

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Posted by MMLDelete on Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:02 PM

And also, on the page I first linked here (https://www.amtrak.com/pennsylvanian-train), there is a dark blue banner at the top, which, in white type has a link to Schedules. If you click on that, it brings you to the page Overmod linked, which, as he said, has a handy link which does NOT take you to the Pennsylvanian's schedule.

I am planning to travel on that train, but so far, the only schedule I can find is one done by a railfan (http://cwrr.com/Amtrak/e_broad.html), and I have no idea if it's accurate.

 

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, February 24, 2021 6:18 PM

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In the box at upper left, there are big light-blue buttons for Map and Schedule. Please click on the Schedule button. Tell me where you wind up.

I let them have it in the feedback.  Felt annoyingly good, too.  With all the back-end expense Amtrak has loaded itself with, there is no conceivable excuse not to have a functional schedule on a tab marked 'schedule' -- let alone a need for a notice describing vague changes to completely different trains.

At least the little morons are consistent: the link from the obsolescent early-2020 schedule from the train here:

https://www.amtrak.com/train-schedules-timetables

also "helpfully" redirects to the same pointless messages.

 

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Posted by MMLDelete on Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:43 PM

Go to this page: https://www.amtrak.com/pennsylvanian-train

In the box at upper left, there are big light-blue buttons for Map and Schedule. Please click on the Schedule button. Tell me where you wind up.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, February 24, 2021 6:31 AM

York1
I did try the Pittsburgh to Chicago train.  I was able to get the results. 

He indicated he was, too.  The results apparently showed arrival at midnight, which he thought would actually translate into 2:00 to 3:00am Surprise

And much of that on mileage he said he'd already ridden, west of Elyria.

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Posted by MMLDelete on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:58 PM

York, we've now decided to fly that leg. If you go to the General forum, and look at my thread Fast Freight Trains, in a post I made today you can see what the plan is now.

Thanks.

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:27 AM

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I was trying to get the price from Pittsburgh to Chicago. It kept telling me Amtrak had no service between those cities. But of course the Capitol connects those cities.

 

I agree that the website is difficult to use.  It seems that it's nearly impossible to look up one trip, and then try to change certain things without backing out of the pages.

I did try the Pittsburgh to Chicago train.  I was able to get the results.  Maybe it was a temporary website issue when you tried.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:29 AM

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Amtrak's website is a disaster. It's practically unusable.

I was trying to get the price from Pittsburgh to Chicago. It kept telling me Amtrak had no service between those cities. But of course the Capitol connects those cities.

The website is junk. Think of how many flights Delta has, compared to how many trains AMTK has; and Delta's site works fine.

Suspect Amtrak's web site is EXACTLY what top management wants.  Unusable to scare away potential passengers.  And it is a 'web site' so top management can say 'we aren't dinosaurs', all the will being technological dinosaurs.

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Posted by MMLDelete on Sunday, February 21, 2021 11:15 PM

Amtrak's website is a disaster. It's practically unusable.

I was trying to get the price from Pittsburgh to Chicago. It kept telling me Amtrak had no service between those cities. But of course the Capitol connects those cities.

The website is junk. Think of how many flights Delta has, compared to how many trains AMTK has; and Delta's site works fine.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, February 15, 2021 7:03 PM

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I have no interest in doing something that well-paid MBAs at Amtrak or McKinsey, etc. should be capable of figuring out on their own. 

Problem being that they may be capable of figuring it out, but unmotivated or incapable of actually implementing a look at better solutions ... let alone fixing or contracting out an actual built solution.

I have often found in the past that extremely bright people often have no clue how their own best interests can be served.  I was drinking in a bar with an IBM-specific shop programmer and made an off-the-cuff comment about how to improve their sales tracking with one of their own proprietary products.  Imagine my surprise when they forwarded this as a 'suggestion box' thing, it won the suggestion of the month, and they insisted on sharing something like $300 with me because I'd said it to them...

Then there was the government computer show in 1991, when NCR and AT&T shared a table.  Down at one end was a hot discussion between NIH people and salesmen trying to work out a tablet-based patient management system ... 'if only' they could figure out how to send data to and from the devices wirelessly.  I gently interrupted as soon as I could and pointed out there was an evolved system being manufactured for precisely that purpose ... being sold and promoted at the other end of their own table (WaveLAN). 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, February 15, 2021 10:39 AM

Overmod

 

 
charlie hebdo
OM:  Rather than wasting money on developing something new from scratch,  just pay DB to adapt their website for the Amtrak system.

 

That would be too simple.  And probably violate some obscure Buy American provision that companies like Systemhouse AG probably have tricks to get around...

 

I do think that this might form the nucleus of an excellent suggestion to Amtrak (or to politicians interested in improving perceived QoS while reducing absolute overhead costs) and I think you should take the time to produce it.

 

I have no interest in doing something that well-paid MBAs at Amtrak or McKinsey, etc. should be capable of figuring out on their own. 

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, February 12, 2021 12:23 PM

charlie hebdo
OM:  Rather than wasting money on developing something new from scratch,  just pay DB to adapt their website for the Amtrak system.

That would be too simple.  And probably violate some obscure Buy American provision that companies like Systemhouse AG probably have tricks to get around...

I do think that this might form the nucleus of an excellent suggestion to Amtrak (or to politicians interested in improving perceived QoS while reducing absolute overhead costs) and I think you should take the time to produce it.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, February 12, 2021 9:22 AM

OM:  Rather than wasting money on developing something new from scratch,  just pay DB to adapt their website for the Amtrak system . ALL the information is available,  at whatever level the passenger wants,  including ticketing into your smartphone via the app. 

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Posted by JPS1 on Friday, February 12, 2021 8:54 AM

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  My point was simply this:  an at-a-glance timetable should be available on the website for all Amtrak trains.  As JPS1 pointed out, they are.  As Dr. hebdo pointed out, not for the trains that aren't operating. 

Detailed schedules are available for viewing and downloading for the long-distance trains and the Pacific Surfliners.  Only high-level information is available for the state supported trains and the NEC.

The Heartland Flyer, which gets a substantial amount of traffic for or off of the Texas Eagle, is running five days a week.  But the Eagle is on a three day a week schedule.  The Heartland Flyer is a state supported train.  No detailed schedule is available for the Flyer, but a detailed schedule is available for the Eagle.   

The prior verison of the Texas Eagle schedule had the schedule for the Heartland Flyer embedded in it.  The current three day a week schedule does not have a schedule for the Flyer, although it shows the connecting route on the accompanying map.  

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Posted by NKP guy on Friday, February 12, 2021 8:15 AM

  Apparently there's a misunderstanding...this railfan does not want a printed paper schedule, nor does he plan any trips without using his computer for everything.  Ever.  Full stop.

   My point was simply this:  an at-a-glance timetable should be available on the website for all Amtrak trains.  As JPS1 pointed out, they are.  As Dr. hebdo pointed out, not for the trains that aren't operating.

   So, Capisci?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    

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Posted by ghCBNS on Friday, February 12, 2021 7:37 AM

BaltACD

It is all a part of Amtrak's attempt to discourage use of their services.

Perhaps by Railfans who want that paper timetable copy in their hands before they'll book. But for everyone else the web page works just fine!

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