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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:42 AM

Miningman
The 'Sports' world has more brains and consideration than the religious one... imagine that.  All those people have to go home eventually and have contact with  another hundred people who in turn... and so on.  Stupid is as stupid does but why put innocents in danger, sanctioned by kooks at that. 

+1  I hope they remembered to wash their hands after they were done praying. Smile, Wink & Grin 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 4:52 PM

Miningman
The 'Sports' world has more brains and consideration than the religious one... imagine that.  All those people have to go home eventually and have contact with  another hundred people who in turn... and so on.  Stupid is as stupid does but why put innocents in danger, sanctioned by kooks at that. 

 

I'm not sure how to respond to that comment.

Did you post it to troll other posters here?

I really don't know what else to say to you.  This is a railroad site made up of posters of all backgrounds and beliefs.  You might want to post comments like that somewhere else.

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:15 PM

It's a response to this picture:

Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, March 16, 2020 12:11 PM

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/276027

Thousands to pray at Western Wall for end to COVID-19 epidemic - Inside Israel

 Not trolling anyone .. this is irresponsible  
 
But yeah you are correct.. not a train thing, so forget it.
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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 6:47 PM

I know the Miningman pretty well folks, and trust me, he's no troller.

I was scratching my head over that mass gathering myself, in addition to wondering why the Israeli government didn't discourage it or flat-out stop it, but I don't know what's going on there and what the political or religious freedom ramifications might have been from stopping it so I refrained from commenting on it.

I doubt I'm going to comment much more on COVID-19 anyway.  I don't know what more can be said that hasn't been said already.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 7:31 PM

As the OP of the photo and article,  I felt folks should be aware and draw their own conclusions without comment.  I don't see how anyone's remarks were trolling or irreligious. Miningman's is certainly not a troller and accusations of that are a backdoor approach to censoring him. 

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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 7:50 PM

Ok York 1 , I toned down the language..edited and amended. I suppose it was a knee jerk reaction. 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:05 PM

Thanks, Miningman.  I apologize for overreacting.

The phrase about the kooks hit me the wrong way.  Sorry.

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:08 PM

charlie hebdo
Miningman's is certainly not a troller and accusations of that are a backdoor approach to censoring him. 

I'm surprised by your comment.  Don't you know that I'm not intelligent enough to take a backdoor approach at censorship?  If I try to censor someone, it'll be right up front and obvious.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:52 PM

Maybe there is  something more to be said?  Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I3AwUK4ZjQ  

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:01 PM

Flintlock76

Maybe there is  something more to be said?  Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I3AwUK4ZjQ  

 

 

One of our state representatives is challenging our governor's authority to shut down bars and restaurants. He's using a provision in the state constitution that guarantees the rights of citizens to assemble together in a peaceable manner, to consult for their common good 


Claiming that shared meal times are the common good.

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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:18 PM

All I can say is, this is the most boring Saint Patrick's day I've ever had. Slainte! 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:31 PM

Convicted One
 
Flintlock76

Maybe there is  something more to be said?  Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I3AwUK4ZjQ   

One of our state representatives is challenging our governor's authority to shut down bars and restaurants. He's using a provision in the state constitution that guarantees the rights of citizens to assemble together in a peaceable manner, to consult for their common good 

Claiming that shared meal times are the common good.

While many localities and states have shut schools to at least the end of March.  Kansas has ended school for the 2019-20 school year - PERIOD.

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Posted by GERALD L MCFARLANE JR on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:01 PM

charlie hebdo

What's your point?  Yes, Sars-CoV-2 is related, but not the same through mutation and recombination.  But the SARS mortality rate that was quoted by McFarlane at 35% was wrong.  It also was less widespread with a lower total number of deaths.  

Yeah, I flip-flopped the SARS and MERS mortality rates, but the percentages still stand, and they're all in coronavirus family, remember that COVID-19 is actually the novel coronavirus.  I still stand by my opinion, I'm more likely to die in a traffic accident or as a pedestrian then from COVID-19.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 2:42 AM

Charlie, I agree.  Posting that picture was a health-issue matter and not a religious one, primarily.  And my immediate response was also not a religious matter but a human-freedom matter.  And both health and freedom are needed to enjoy our hobby and/or the profession of a railroader. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 6:00 AM

Again, I urge writing to the Chinesse Ambassadors, to your country and to thoe UN.  A serious freedom matter with implications for health as well:

China's War on Religion Ensnares American-based Pastor John Cao
by Lawrence A. Franklin
March 18, 2020 at 4:00 am
   
  • China's totalitarian system seems to perceive any movement that permits citizens to feel allegiance to any entity other than the state as a threat.
  • Communist cadres, evidently not content with coercing the external conformity and behavior of their citizens, appear to want to control their people's thoughts as well. Beijing is now re-writing Christian scripture and printing other tracts to render religious beliefs politically aligned with state policies.
The American Center for Law and Justice, chaired by the attorney Jay Sekulow, through its "Be Heard Project," urges all people concerned about freedom of conscience to sign petitions and otherwise pressure the Chinese government to release Pastor Cao, allowing him to return to his family in North Carolina. "China Aid" director Bob Fu, who monitors human rights violations in Communist China, calls upon citizens to write letters to Pastor Cao to keep his spirits up – address below. The sheer volume of mail would also let Beijing know that Cao's persecution remains a serious concern to the "Free World."
In addition to trying to pin the blame for the coronavirus pandemic on the United States, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) under Party Chairman Xi Jinping is executing an anti-Christian campaign, the intensity of which has not been seen since Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution in the mid-1960s.
Persecution against Christians was reignited in earnest after the 19th CCP Congress in 2017. The state's drive against Christian symbols, churches, and clerics seems to have become justified under the CCP's "Sinicization of China's Religions" initiative. The CCP appears determined to secularize religious thought, suborning it to serve state interests. Its anti-Christian project seems designed primarily to sever all international links that religious people have, whether those ties are Christian or Muslim.
Beijing is deploying the assets of the CCP's security agencies against Christianity, in part, by establishing a regime of punitive measures, such as mandatory and intimidating facial ID screenings, restrictions on dissemination of religious tracts on the internet, and loss of "social credit" points that can result in the expulsion of the children of Christian parents from schools. Communist secret police have also been apprehending Christian preachers whom they apparently regard as effective, such as the Protestant Evangelical Pastor John Cao.
Pastor Cao, a permanent resident of the U.S., was arrested on March 5, 2017 after he crossed the border from Myanmar (Burma) to China's Yunnan Province. Cao and his assistant, Jing Ruxia, were charged with allegedly organizing the illegal crossing of national borders, despite decades of similar movement from parish schools in Wa State, Myanmar to the Christian faithful in China. Cao, initially detained in a local jail near his arrest site, was later transferred to the regional jail in Kunming, the capital of Yunnan Province. Pastor Cao has served three of his seven-year sentence and is in declining health. Appeals for his release have been rejected by Chinese authorities.
Cao's American-born wife, Jaime Powell, and his sons, Amos and Benjamin, who live in North Carolina, have been working with the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) and International Christian Concern to draw attention to the pastor's unjust imprisonment. Prior to his sudden arrest, Cao had been permitted to cross national borders, for instance while assisting earthquake victims in 2008 and 2015, in Sichuan Province, China and Nepal, respectively.
Consequently, Pastor Cao's arrest in 2017 appears to be a result of a political decision by Beijing to crack down harder on Christian "house churches".
The CCP has also been pressuring Christians to join the state-affiliated "Three-Self Patriotic Movement," which ensures that believers attend CCP politically-approved activities and receive sermons by state-compliant clerics. Failure to comply can lead to potential harassment; and with the faith leaders, to incarceration. Other state-controlled religious organizations include the "China Christian Council" and the "Chinese Patriotic Catholic Church."
China's totalitarian system seems to perceive any movement that permits citizens to feel allegiance to any entity other than the state as a threat. Communist cadres, evidently not content with coercing the external conformity and behavior of their citizens, appear to want to control their people's thoughts as well. Beijing is now re-writing Christian scripture and printing other tracts to render religious beliefs politically aligned with state policies.
The Ministry of Interior has established a punitive framework that involves forcing Christians to attend re-education classes. Other recalcitrant believers are subject to economic punishments such as being ineligible for financial assistance from the state. Still others, especially those who have shown zealous religious proselytizing activity, are incarcerated in China's archipelago of prisons.
The regime's anti-Christian campaign does not yet seem to have approached the magnitude of the state's suppression of the Uighurs; at least, there is no evidence of massive internment camps for Christians, yet. This difference is possible because Christians are ubiquitous in China, whereas Muslim Uighurs are largely limited to Xinjiang Province in China's remote northwest. However, the incarceration of Pastor Cao and other Christian clerics indicates that the CCP's apparatus is determined to crack down on Christians as well. Some Communist Party bureaucrats have already banned people below the age of 18 from being baptized.
The state's most intense anti-Christian campaign can be seen in Zhejiang Province, where one estimate suggests that at least 15% of the population is Christian. "De-crossing" of buildings in Zhejiang from 2014 through 2017 exceeded one thousand structures. Other provinces with a substantial concentration of Christian believers include Anhui, Hebei, and Henan Provinces. Beijing is also experiencing a growth of Christianity. In the capital's Haidian District, where a church has been attracting thousands of worshipers.
The American Center for Law and Justice, chaired by the attorney Jay Sekulow, through its "Be Heard Project," urges all people concerned about freedom of conscience to sign petitions and otherwise pressure the Chinese government to release Pastor Cao, allowing him to return to his family in North Carolina. "China Aid" director Bob Fu, who monitors human rights violations in China, calls upon citizens to write letters to Pastor Cao to keep his spirits up. The sheer volume of mail would also let Beijing know that Cao's persecution remains a serious concern to the "Free World."
John Sanqiang Cao
No. 416 Si Wa Lu
Wang Da Qiao,
Dongjiao, Panlong District
Kunming City, Yunnan Province
China Zip Code 650216
People's Republic of China
Dr. Lawrence A. Franklin was the Iran Desk Officer for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. He also served on active duty with the U.S. Army and as a Colonel in the Air Force Reserve.
I am not saying that religious peraecution brought on the virus.  I am saying that it is illogical and hypocritical for a Chinese Ambassador to attend a massive prayer meeting and simultaneously his government prevents Chincse in China from establishing a relationship with the Eternal that meets their individual spiritual needs.
Please write your letters.  You will at least save one life, that of Pastor Cao.
 
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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 8:04 AM

Long-winded posts about religion or various rights do not belong on a thread about the corona virus. 

Metra is planning to reduce it's schedules after this Friday as far fewer commuters are going into the loop. 

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 8:27 AM

It's not that long winded, and you are the one that posted the photo to start this discussion.  The post above that you are now objecting to is just as relevant as your photo.

And while I cannot write the Chinese Ambassadors, for reasons given earlier, I certainly will take the time to write Pastor Cao as suggested by the retired Colonel.  And you shouldl too!

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:18 AM

My photo was without comment because what was happening in regard to safe health practices was obvious for all to conclude, as several other members stated.  Your last post is about religion and is also a blatant political statement as should be obvious to all.  You have been told about this before by moderators. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:27 PM

The Coronavirus threat and Pastor Cao's incarceration and the general lack of freedom, inclluding freedom of religion, in China result from the same dictatorship.  My answer to your photo was and is more relevant than your photo.

In addition to trying at first to completely cover up the Virus threat, the Chinese Government attempted to completely cover up the widespread 1964-1965 famine in China that resulted directly from hearding individual famers into collectives.  Their history books blame it on the weather.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:41 PM

I need to add two simple facts:

Freedom is as iimportant as health to enjoy the railfan hobby.

Doing one's best to save a decent man's life is not politics.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, March 19, 2020 3:22 AM
The number of confirmed COVID-19 cases

The number of Israelis with coronavirus jumped Thursday morning to 529, according to the Health Ministry. At press time Wednesday, 433 Israelis were diagnosed with the SARS-CoV2. Idris Elba tests positive for coronavirus. The increased number comes after the ministry conducted many more tests Wednesday, so many that the Health Ministry sent out a note informing the public it would not be able to report on the number of infected Israelis as early as usual. "Because the number of examining sites has risen (20 labs) and the number of daily examinations is higher than before (more than 2,200 tests yesterday and the number continues to rise), gathering and summarizing all the data – including the number of people who tested positive for coronavirus – will take longer," the ministry said in a statement.

An additional Israeli (6 people) was listed as in critical condition Thursday, but the majority of Israelis (498) have mild symptoms, the ministry reported. Thirteen Israelis are in moderate condition and 12 have recovered. So far, 36 Israelis are taking advantage of the country's "coronavirus hotels" to recover. There is one in Jerusalem and one in Tel Aviv.

Also on Thursday, Shalva Dahan, the last patient in hospital at Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer who was on board the Diamond Princess cruise ship was released (recovered) today, a spokesperson for Sheba said.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:19 AM
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The MTA is stepping up its cleaning procedures across all modes of travel,
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 Schedule Change, Effective Sunday, March 29

Train schedules will change on the Hudson, Harlem and New Haven lines effective Sunday, March 29, 2020.

The new schedule will more accurately reflect where and when trackwork and infrastructure projects are occurring along the lines, and provide reliable train times for you, our customers.

Among the highlights, there will be minor adjustments to train times

On the
Hudson Line
On the
Harlem Line
On the
New Haven Line

The Breakneck Ridge station will also remain temporarily closed.

station enhancements at White Plains, switch replacements near Hartsdale, a new substation installation near Mt. Kisco, and the installation of a new Harlem Line express cable between North White Plains and Goldens Bridge, will create small adjustments to weekday and weekend schedules.

to improve performance on weekdays on the New Canaan, Danbury and Waterbury Branch trains and connections, there will be minor adjustments to train departure times.

On weekends there will be small adjustments to the schedule to accommodate infrastructure projects.

Be sure to pick up a new timetable

in Grand Central and at outlying stations to check for possible adjustments to your train's schedule. Schedules are also available online at mta.info/mnr or or via our free Train Time App.

 

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 The newly renovated East Side escalators in Grand Central Terminal are now open for business!

The intensive renovation project of the escalators, located near the entrance to the Grand Central Market, required a complete overhaul. That included the escalator trusses, motors, steps, handrails, safety systems, control equipment and surrounding architectural finishes.

The renovation will help to ensure improved performance and reliability, and less downtime for maintenance for many years to come.

Compliant with American Public Transportation Association standards, the new escalators feature energy-saving devices like "sleep-mode," which reduces the speed of the escalator during downtimes and increases when pedestrians approach.

Now it is the West Side's turn!

Crews will be renovating the West Side escalators inside Grand Central Terminal, located near the Station Master's Office and Shuttle Passage.

During this time, the west side bathrooms (situated under the west side escalators) will be closed each night between 8 PM – 6 AM the next morning.

Alternate routes to the lower level,

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"Thousands take Metro-North to get in and out of New York City, and from the Harlem, Hudson and New Haven lines, one woman has her eye on it all," starts the about Metro-North President Catherine Rinaldi.

"In the sea of commuters, tourists and locals is someone who blends right into the crowd, her name is Catherine Rinaldi, and she is anything but ordinary."

"Rinaldi's ride to the top was hardly an express ride though," explains News12 reporter, Sarah Toland.

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Badges, Barks, and Honor – K9 Grads at Vanderbilt Hall

Five bright-eyed, bushy-tailed new officers joined MTAPD in February in the annual K9 graduation ceremony at Vanderbilt Hall in Grand Central Terminal.

The newly commissioned dogs

are traditionally named in honor of fallen police officers, firefighters, or members of the U.S. armed services, with family members of those honored in attendance.

 This year, one of the dogs — Canine Timo, named for NYPD Det. Russell Timoshenko — died of a rare medical condition during the training period and was remembered at the ceremony, alongside members of Det. Timoshenko's family.

The K9 officers, along with their human partners,

completed an intensive 12-week explosives detection course at the MTAPD's 72-acre training center in Dutchess County. The MTAPD has approximately 50 dogs in service, and runs one of the nation's largest K9 forces.

Canine Artie erupted in hearty barks as the ceremony got underway, while Canine Goose proved to be the class clown, jumping into the arms of partner PO Salvatore Surletti, then diving across the marble floor for a beloved stuffed toy.

Proof that no matter how invaluable they are to MTA's security and anti-terrorism efforts, there's always a puppy deep inside.

Congratulations to:

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    NYPD ESU Police Officer John D'Allara
  • PO Richard Denicker and Canine Chris,
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    NYPD Sgt. Christopher Christodoulou
  • PO Ashley Torres and Canine Artie,
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    Nassau County ESU Police Officer Arthur Lopez
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Our Terminal Was Home to the Tonight Show/ Jimmy Fallon, & South Korean Pop Band BTS

On Monday, February 24 at 11:35 PM, NBC aired a special telecast of The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, featuring South Korean pop band BTS and their performance of a brand-new song inside iconic Grand Central Terminal!

"We wanted to do something special for BTS and, at the same time, celebrate New York City," Fallon said in a press release. "BTS really knocked it out of the park. You're not going to believe how big and fun their performance is," he wrote before the airing.

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:38 AM

Actually the panic buying is understandable when you consider the way many naysayers originally tried to downplay the threat of this thing as some sort of delusion.

Now with the mass closures and other emergency relief measures in process, clearly such optimism was misguided. And the current public reaction could be regarded as an expected pendulum swing, where self preservation trumps other priorities.

As this thing spreads, the likelihood that individuals restocking the supply chain might contaminate replenished items grows along with it.

Perhaps these hoarders really do envision "hiding out" in their own homes for the next several weeks?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:50 AM

I have not traveled out of my regular routine since the first news of the virus was available.  i have not seen panic buying in the one supermarket I visited nor in the two neighborhood small markets that I visit more frequently.  There do not appear to be any shortages of regular household purchases here.  Only imported exotic items.

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:55 AM

H'mmmmm,...perhaps the panic buying has it's roots in the "rugged individualism" that this country is famous for? Clown

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:16 AM

That may be part of the answer.  Another part may be the average Israeli's greater faith in our medical system.  Again, every Israeli citizen and foreign student at our educational institutions is Required to sign up for health insurance and medical care.  But, dating from the Mandate pre-State period, there are four competing combination insurance and health-care cooperatives that were organized and still are run by doctors.  And the four compete on service and price.  Both as a citizen and as a student (at age 64) at Hebrew U., I was required to sign up as a client of Miyuhedet, (can be translated as Special or Individual).  I was happy with the costs and the service, and when the University switched to another provider, Clall  (can be translated as Universal or Popular) I chose to stay with Miyuhedet.

Over ten years ago I came down with a desease for which surgery was advised.  I lived with it.  Four years ago a Miiyuhedet doctor told me a friend who practices at a Clall hospitaal discoverd a new treatment not requiring surgery.  Miyuhedet ended up paying Clall for my complete recovery, which invoived five outpatient visits (a few time enabling an IR train ride) and what I have been told are several thousand dollar worth of pills, one each day for about three months. I did not ask for compensation for transportation expenses.

My experience is that confidence in our medical system is appropriate.

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:33 AM

At the onset of this thing did you have widespread denial, were there people circulating their "expertise" that this was just going to be like a bad cold, and no worse?

Because that's the point I'm really making here, that as the credibility of the naysayers erroded, the public's reaction might have been amplified due to survival instinct. TO WIT: not knowing just how far understated the risk was, the natural reaction was towards caution, "and if too much so, then so be it"

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:03 AM

The English Language newspaper I read on the Internet and regularly buy the expanded Friday edition (corresponding to a weekend or Sunday USA newspaper) was very responsible, and I think the Hebrew newspapers were also responsible.  The jerusalem Post was careful to separate known facts frolm speculation, and the Government was quick to provide guidelines for conduct.  The  "Left" did criticize the Government at first as using the threat as a pretext for asserting authotiriy, but that dissapeared as the facts became better known.

One thhing the USA could learn from us is this:  Obviously hotels have largeliy lost their clientel.  So two hotels, one in T. A. and one in Jersusalem, with possibly more to come, are convelescent homes, where those recovering from the virus, but still under quarentene, can live, since they do not require constant medical care and can free up hospital bed for those that do requie it.

I should have also stated that the treatment for my illnes discussed in the previous post was experimental at the time I had it, but is now a regular treatment, and also the procedur when first discovered is so different and effecdtive that neither that treatment nor surgery is usually required.

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Posted by 243129 on Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:12 AM

Israel?

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:21 AM

Dave's continued attacks on China are part of an organized attempt to distract the public from our own failures to properly  deal with a health crisis.  It's an old political strategy: find an external enemy to focus attention away.  In Israel a criminal continues to be premier.  Familiar?

It's time to put aside nationalist arrogance, individual needs and partisanship and work together. 

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