BaltACD charlie hebdo Convicted One: +1 Good sentiments. Unfortunately a lack of coherent policy has placed us weeks late in preparedness.
charlie hebdo Convicted One: +1 Good sentiments. Unfortunately a lack of coherent policy has placed us weeks late in preparedness.
Good sentiments. Unfortunately a lack of coherent policy has placed us weeks late in preparedness.
charlie hebdoConvicted One: +1 Good sentiments. Unfortunately a lack of coherent policy has placed us weeks late in preparedness.
Since we have a TV President, we now have a TV disease - Trump Virus.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
BaltACDThere are too many asymptomatic carriers.
First documented case in our area was a asymptomatic doctor. Typhiod Mary sort of thing. Then we had a convneince store clerk.
LAst week, our governor let businesses be open, but pleaded for people to be smart (yeah, I laughed too). If youg o to restaurants:g et take out, don't hang around in bars - that sort of thing. As I was coming home from work last friday, all the bars and restaurants were packed. A few days later the order came to shut them down (except for take out). People are stupid. They don't understand medical stuff, and they don't understand statistics.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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Steve Sattler emailed me a throughly researched time-line up to past Friday on the virus. It's long and not official, so I am not posting it. But, after studying, I can confirm that Trump's first remarks were inappropriate to say the least and suggest he did not consult with proper medical authorities before making them. For me to speculate as what Biden or Sanders would have said would get intio politics, so I will pass on that, thank you. But the free society of the USA would not permit the harm that was done in China, even if Trump had not quickly changed his mind, and Steve agrees with that evaluation.
For something more official:
The Health Ministry announced on Saturday that 883 Israelis have tested positive for the coronavirus, 15 of whom are in serious condition. The 178-person increase represents the largest jump in numbers Israel has seen to date.The ministry added that 274 of those diagnosed are currently hospitalized.
The increase in cases comes the morning after Israel reported its first death from the novel coronavirus.
The victim, an 88-year-old man (Holocaust Survivor - DLK), was hospitalized and placed in the quarantine unit for coronavirus patients at Shaare Zedek Medical Center in Jerusalem about a week ago. He arrived in severe condition, and was reported to have had been suffering from a number of underlying conditions. At the hospital, he received several treatments from medical staff in an attempt to combat his symptoms. However, during the week, the elderly patient suffered from cardiac arrest. He was later resuscitated but his condition stayed stagnant. The patient's condition worsened in the hours leading up to death, and he eventually passed away at around 9 p.m. Israel time.
The Health Ministry has issued guidelines that order Israelis to remain in their homes unless it is absolutely necessary to leave. Visiting parks, beaches, pools, libraries and museums is prohibited, as are all social interactions. Work that can be done from home should be. Currently all “essential” services will remain open, including supermarkets, pharmacies and most medical services. In addition, while Israelis are encouraged to work from home, employees who need to travel to work will be able to do so.
Rachel Wolf, Maayan Jaffe-Hoffman and Anna Ahronheim contributed to this report.
I have been given a decent room for sleeping at the Yeshiva for the duration, and thus won't commute regularly. Two or possibly three times a week I'll be able to visit my apartment, because the food store, neighborhood small market, that I regularly use is located in the same building and will be open. I have laundry soap at the Yeshiva, and will wash my own clothes. Music listening is still an open question. Ability to use the Yeshiva's computer, as I am doing right now, helps, and the content of most of my music CDs, as well as photos, the Kalmbach don't distribute file, etc, already stored in "my" directory.
I can also report that I can enjoy the hospitality of one American-Israeli family for Sabbath and Holiday meals and the Passover Seder, and possibly other meals as well, and also have a supply of my own food in two of the Yeshiva's refrigorator.
The American-Israeli family are good freinds, but not the three families I regularly enjoyed in the recent past. All three have very small children, whom I now miss.
Convicted One: +1
I believe that one could argue that severity denialists are practicing a form of social NIMBYism.
Rode Cincy Streetcar and will give a report as soon as I can get to a computer.OH Libraries closed. Bus and Trolley Drivers in Cincy and Dayton OH are now suited up like Darth Vader...
BaltACD There are too many asymptomatic carriers.
I suspect there are a good many people who really wouldn't care that they are spreading the disease, anyway.
GERALD L MCFARLANE JRut don't quarantine everyone.
You're not really "quarantined" right now, are you? Most people are free to make essential trips to the grocery, or the bank, or to a convenience store.I think the only people who are actually quarantined are those who have been diagnosed positive.
There are just too many people who chronically place their priorities above everyone else, who would (for example) see their "need" to go watch a hockey game as more important than someone else's desire to not become infected with a potentially lethal pathogen.
I know that I am repeating myself, but I am happy that the government is making that decision for all the people who are too shortsighted to properly think that through for themselves.
That's one of the drawbacks of a "free" society. With everybody out there pursuing their freedom and invoking their rights....there are bound to be conflicts.
The guy who does not get to go to the hockey game will get over it. The guy he might have infected in a restaurant on the way home, might not have. So it's wiser to risk error on the side of caution.
BaltACDOnly if Fox News is your source.
You mean FAUX News.
GERALD L MCFARLANE JRDo it the other way around then, quarantine those that are most susceptible and let the rest of the population continue to roam, but don't quarantine everyone.
Let the carriers carry wherever they go - and they have no idea that they are carriers. That is real smart [/sarcasm]. There are too many asymptomatic carriers.
Deggesty York1 BaltACD York1 Another problem with Charlie's statement is that the "current occupant of our WH" did not call it a hoax.What's more, Charlie knows it. Only if Fox News is your source. I don't know what FOX News says about this. I don't watch it. However, I have read these, and many more: 1. "What's False Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/ 2. "President Donald Trump slammed Democrats for the way they are reacting to the coronavirus threat, saying that their criticism of his administration’s handling of the outbreak is “their new hoax.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-slams-democrats- 3. "President Trump says that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration." https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax.html There are a lot more sources for this. Several days ago, Charlie posted this: charlie hebdo Your last post is about religion and is also a blatant political statement as should be obvious to all. Yet he continues to post blatant political statements himself. People are sick. People are dying. Businesses are closing. Workers are being laid off. Maybe it's time to put away the blatant political statements for now, and talk about them when this is all over. Thank you, York 1.
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Another problem with Charlie's statement is that the "current occupant of our WH" did not call it a hoax.What's more, Charlie knows it.
Only if Fox News is your source. I don't know what FOX News says about this. I don't watch it. However, I have read these, and many more: 1. "What's False Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/ 2. "President Donald Trump slammed Democrats for the way they are reacting to the coronavirus threat, saying that their criticism of his administration’s handling of the outbreak is “their new hoax.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-slams-democrats- 3. "President Trump says that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration." https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax.html There are a lot more sources for this. Several days ago, Charlie posted this: charlie hebdo Your last post is about religion and is also a blatant political statement as should be obvious to all. Yet he continues to post blatant political statements himself. People are sick. People are dying. Businesses are closing. Workers are being laid off. Maybe it's time to put away the blatant political statements for now, and talk about them when this is all over.
Only if Fox News is your source.
I don't know what FOX News says about this. I don't watch it.
However, I have read these, and many more:
1. "What's False Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
2. "President Donald Trump slammed Democrats for the way they are reacting to the coronavirus threat, saying that their criticism of his administration’s handling of the outbreak is “their new hoax.”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-slams-democrats-
3. "President Trump says that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax.html
There are a lot more sources for this.
Several days ago, Charlie posted this:
charlie hebdo Your last post is about religion and is also a blatant political statement as should be obvious to all.
Yet he continues to post blatant political statements himself.
People are sick. People are dying. Businesses are closing. Workers are being laid off.
Maybe it's time to put away the blatant political statements for now, and talk about them when this is all over.
Thank you, York 1.
By Mitch Smith, Karen Yourish, Sarah Almukhtar, Keith Collins, Amy Harmon, Allison McCann and Jin WuUpdated March 20, 2020, 10:27 P.M. E.T.
The number of known cases of the coronavirus in the United States surged past 15,000 on Friday morning as testing expanded and the virus spread. As of Friday evening, at least 17,836 people across every state, plus Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories, have tested positive for coronavirus, according to a New York Times database, and at least 238 patients with the virus have died.
Convicted One GERALD L MCFARLANE JR By all means protect those that are most suscpetible, but let the rest of go on about our daily lives normally, it's not going to hurt the vast majority of civilians(who by the way won't need hospitalization either). I'm actually glad the the government is making that decision for the people who are too self absorbed to realize the threat they would pose to the vulnerable people around them is unacceptable. And I am normally very anti-authority, and anti-government....but on this issue they have my full support.
GERALD L MCFARLANE JR By all means protect those that are most suscpetible, but let the rest of go on about our daily lives normally, it's not going to hurt the vast majority of civilians(who by the way won't need hospitalization either).
I'm actually glad the the government is making that decision for the people who are too self absorbed to realize the threat they would pose to the vulnerable people around them is unacceptable.
And I am normally very anti-authority, and anti-government....but on this issue they have my full support.
charlie hebdo Trump called it a hoax several times on TV. It's not politics. It's a public health crisis.
Trump called it a hoax several times on TV. It's not politics. It's a public health crisis.
Trump also closed down travel between the U.S. and China despite the protestations of the WHO and others. Trump is certainly not above reproach for his handling of the COVID-19 situation, but his critics are no better.
A crowded passenger train is not the place to be while in the middle of a pandemic, though the same is true of a crowded bus or airliner.
This is the game rightists such as Hannity play.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/3/20/21186727/hannity-coronavirus-coverage-fox-news
And from Trump at a rally in South Carolina:
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/29/21159294/trump-coronavirus-hoax-south-carolina-first-death
But for a few days at least, Trump has changed his tone a little, following advice of his consultants, Shirley still blaming this on previous administrations today. The Big Lie of Dr. Goebbels in action.
York1 BaltACD York1 Another problem with Charlie's statement is that the "current occupant of our WH" did not call it a hoax. What's more, Charlie knows it. Only if Fox News is your source. I don't know what FOX News says about this. I don't watch it. However, I have read these, and many more: 1. "What's False Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/ 2. "President Donald Trump slammed Democrats for the way they are reacting to the coronavirus threat, saying that their criticism of his administration’s handling of the outbreak is “their new hoax.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-slams-democrats- 3. "President Trump says that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration." https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax.html There are a lot more sources for this. Several days ago, Charlie posted this: charlie hebdo Your last post is about religion and is also a blatant political statement as should be obvious to all. Yet he continues to post blatant political statements himself. People are sick. People are dying. Businesses are closing. Workers are being laid off. Maybe it's time to put away the blatant political statements for now, and talk about them when this is all over.
BaltACD York1 Another problem with Charlie's statement is that the "current occupant of our WH" did not call it a hoax. What's more, Charlie knows it. Only if Fox News is your source.
York1 Another problem with Charlie's statement is that the "current occupant of our WH" did not call it a hoax. What's more, Charlie knows it.
What's more, Charlie knows it.
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No, it's hilarious. Gotta find some humour even in the darkest of times.
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York 1 states: " Maybe it's time to put away the blatant political statements for now, and talk about them when this is all over."
These are wise and decent words.
It's important but obviously people here cannot seem to stop getting in a hit on your President. It's shameful given the circumstances.
Thanks York 1.. respect to you.
Well, he is a stable genius and now is a medical expert. Maybe we just need more covfefe on our hamburders.
But, b'jaysus, that man has the weirdest hair I've ever seen!
"I haven't touched my face in weeks. Been weeks. I miss it!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e2Nwey00rc
I hope he was just joking, but considering the size of his ego I'm not sure.
charlie hebdoYour last post is about religion and is also a blatant political statement as should be obvious to all.
York1 John
GERALD L MCFARLANE JRBy all means protect those that are most suscpetible, but let the rest of go on about our daily lives normally, it's not going to hurt the vast majority of civilians(who by the way won't need hospitalization either).
York1Another problem with Charlie's statement is that the "current occupant of our WH" did not call it a hoax. What's more, Charlie knows it.
BaltACDOnce upon a time hospitals were viewed as altruistic organizations - dedicated to the health of their patients. Now they are totally for profit entities and with much of today's diagnostic equipment running in the seven and eight figure price tag to acquire there is no pretense of being altruistic. To be competitive in the hospital marketplace each hospital has to have the latest in diagnostic equipment - those that determine they can't afford the equipment cease to exist.
I agree completely. But if this thing lasts the 18 months that some predict, and if local resources become overloaded, and this hospital does not "ramp up" ....I predict they will have a public relations dilemma to answer for.....
675 new deaths just this morning in Italy. 470 new deaths yesterday in Italy. It's not about you, it's about everyone you come into contact with.
GERALD L MCFARLANE JR charlie hebdo alphas China's role in this mess can not be ignored. Their first ignoring the problem, then trying to hide it from the world, then trying to blame it on US troops is totally unacceptable. The other casualty in this is the WHO and its director which accepted China's version for so long that the world was slow to take action. The WHO (and its director) have lost their credability and its going to take a major change for it to be trusted again. Meanwhile you ignore the current occupant of our WH who was calling it a hoax not long ago and dismissing it as no worse than seasonal flu. The problem with your statement is that it is no worse than the seasonal flu, which on a percentage basis kills more people than COVID-19 does and will, and that's from the CDC's own statistics. By all means protect those that are most suscpetible, but let the rest of go on about our daily lives normally, it's not going to hurt the vast majority of civilians(who by the way won't need hospitalization either).
charlie hebdo alphas China's role in this mess can not be ignored. Their first ignoring the problem, then trying to hide it from the world, then trying to blame it on US troops is totally unacceptable. The other casualty in this is the WHO and its director which accepted China's version for so long that the world was slow to take action. The WHO (and its director) have lost their credability and its going to take a major change for it to be trusted again. Meanwhile you ignore the current occupant of our WH who was calling it a hoax not long ago and dismissing it as no worse than seasonal flu.
alphas China's role in this mess can not be ignored. Their first ignoring the problem, then trying to hide it from the world, then trying to blame it on US troops is totally unacceptable. The other casualty in this is the WHO and its director which accepted China's version for so long that the world was slow to take action. The WHO (and its director) have lost their credability and its going to take a major change for it to be trusted again.
China's role in this mess can not be ignored. Their first ignoring the problem, then trying to hide it from the world, then trying to blame it on US troops is totally unacceptable. The other casualty in this is the WHO and its director which accepted China's version for so long that the world was slow to take action. The WHO (and its director) have lost their credability and its going to take a major change for it to be trusted again.
Meanwhile you ignore the current occupant of our WH who was calling it a hoax not long ago and dismissing it as no worse than seasonal flu.
Another problem with Charlie's statement is that the "current occupant of our WH" did not call it a hoax.
Funny thing is that probably the best response to COVID-19 was from the Republic of China (Taiwan). One of the the first things they did was to gear up on the prodction of face masks, shut down travel from the PRC and thoroughly track cases of infections.
Note that face masks only have to be good for lowering the infection rate to be useful for slowing down a pandemic.
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