EuclidEuclid wrote the following post 9 minutes ago: 54light15 I hate all of these terms- wheelhouse, stay in your lane, gaslight,... The term, gaslight in particular seems to be an unusually long way around the simple point of messing with someone's head.
I suspect that "cabin fever" is taking it's toll on some here. Haters gotta hate.
charlie hebdo*Besserwisser* is German for a know it all, literally a person who knows better.
But in Chicago it has a richer, almost Yiddish-humor sense: a besserwisser is someone who thinks they know better ... and won't stop telling you so, perhaps ... but doesn't know as 'better' as they think.
Compare 'wisenheimer' which is the sort of know-it-all that thinks they see through something and can't stop telling how the trick is done. This has less the sense of 'intellectual knowledge' that the besserwisser displays and more the sense of knowing as in 'being in on a con'.
Euclid: "gaslighting" is a literary reference, to a movie with Ingrid Bergman in it, in which the technique is a major plot element. It is a very short and very direct reference to invoke the movie name to describe the idea.
Terms like these are a bit different from the time-honored American practice (from long before the Europeans came to 'America', I think) that he found so distasteful: to find a disparaging name for people you oppose, often in the hope you can win by getting them to acknowledge impaired status even before the game starts. Or in the all-too-frequent hope that you can dehumanize 'them' from individuals into a group you can be prejudiced against without anyone being able to accuse you of the 'wrong' kind of prejudice. I wish it didn't work so well 'when they work it' -- but so often, it does.
Convicted One Euclid Euclid wrote the following post 9 minutes ago: 54light15 I hate all of these terms- wheelhouse, stay in your lane, gaslight,... The term, gaslight in particular seems to be an unusually long way around the simple point of messing with someone's head. I suspect that "cabin fever" is taking it's toll on some here. Haters gotta hate.
Euclid Euclid wrote the following post 9 minutes ago: 54light15 I hate all of these terms- wheelhouse, stay in your lane, gaslight,... The term, gaslight in particular seems to be an unusually long way around the simple point of messing with someone's head.
I did not write what you have attributed to me.
OvermodEuclid: "gaslighting" is a literary reference, to a movie with Ingrid Bergman in it, in which the technique is a major plot element. It is a very short and very direct reference to invoke the movie name to describe the idea.
Yes, I am aware of that. My point is that unless a person does happen to know about that connection to the movie, the term as commonly used, will be absolutely meaningless.
EuclidYes, I am aware of that. My point is that unless a person does happen to know about that connection to the movie, the term as commonly used, will be absolutely meaningless.
Or they could spend like 3 seconds and look it up. I mean, we can't dumb down everything for everyone.
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EuclidI did not write what you have attributed to me.
If you look a little closer, you'll see that I quoted the comment you were responding to as well as your reply.
My observation applies to more than just those comments. Just as a one example, we've got an entire thread devoted to petty critiques of grammer, on a blue collar message board no less.
I believe cabin fever is fueling petty discontent in a number of ways.
Convicted One Euclid I did not write what you have attributed to me. If you look a little closer, you'll see that I quoted the comment you were responding to as well as your reply. My observation applies to more than just those comments. Just as a one example, we've got an entire thread devoted to petty critiques of grammer, on a blue collar message board no less. I believe cabin fever is fueling petty discontent in a number of ways.
Euclid I did not write what you have attributed to me.
"Petty? Petty?" "Well, excuse me!" [apologies to Wildians and SNL fans].
The parts you object to are more about idiomatic phrases and their etymologies than about *grammer* [It's spelled grammar, unless you are using a term of endearment for your grandmother ].
True, but you packaged the comment I was responding to with my reply, making it look like you were quoting me as having said both. And this is not an issue of grammer.
charlie hebdo Convicted One Euclid I did not write what you have attributed to me. If you look a little closer, you'll see that I quoted the comment you were responding to as well as your reply. My observation applies to more than just those comments. Just as a one example, we've got an entire thread devoted to petty critiques of grammer, on a blue collar message board no less. I believe cabin fever is fueling petty discontent in a number of ways. "Petty? Petty?" "Well, excuse me!" [apologies to Wildians and SNL fans]. The parts you object to are more about idiomatic phrases and their etymologies than about *grammer* [It's spelled grammar, unless you are using a term of endearment for your grandmother ].
Many Forum participants continue to gaslight Euclid.
Fortunately he has managed to maintain his sanity whereas I'm not certain of some of those always attacking.
Miningman Fortunately he has managed to maintain his sanity whereas I'm not certain of some of those always attacking.
Like I ever had any!
Film Noir would have a field day with the Forum members.
The wisenheimers over here, the dupes over there, the fools there, the gaslighters over here, the evil guy recognizable on every Saturday morning cartoon show, the ex-spurt here, the techno nerd there...we need a femme fatale .. not sure our one regular on the distaff side fits the bill, but Juniata could, as a big surprise.
The hero of course is Wanswheel .
zugmann Euclid Yes, I am aware of that. My point is that unless a person does happen to know about that connection to the movie, the term as commonly used, will be absolutely meaningless. Or they could spend like 3 seconds and look it up. I mean, we can't dumb down everything for everyone.
Euclid Yes, I am aware of that. My point is that unless a person does happen to know about that connection to the movie, the term as commonly used, will be absolutely meaningless.
The term is commonly used. Many are unaware of the connection to the Bergman - Boyer film.
Miningman...we need a femme fatale
Why can't I be?
Euclid charlie hebdo Convicted One Euclid I did not write what you have attributed to me. If you look a little closer, you'll see that I quoted the comment you were responding to as well as your reply. My observation applies to more than just those comments. Just as a one example, we've got an entire thread devoted to petty critiques of grammer, on a blue collar message board no less. I believe cabin fever is fueling petty discontent in a number of ways. "Petty? Petty?" "Well, excuse me!" [apologies to Wildians and SNL fans]. The parts you object to are more about idiomatic phrases and their etymologies than about *grammer* [It's spelled grammar, unless you are using a term of endearment for your grandmother ]. It is not petty at all if you would care to actually look at it.
It is not petty at all if you would care to actually look at it.
Oh, so sorry! My post referred to CO. And it was a tongue-in-cheek joke but I forgot that you are humor-challenged.
Wanswheel? Are you serious? More 10-page posts of material lifted from protected sources? Often tangential at best. We already have a *long poster* of lifted material.
charlie hebdo*grammer* [It's spelled grammar, unless you are using a term of endearment for your grandmother ].
Ouch! I guess you got me there. Perhaps I was more preoccupied removing the meme of a grammar n.azi that I had originally incorporated into my reply, but removed because I was concerned that it might be construed as offensive by those determined to take offense. I was too lazy to research it's copywrite status, as well.
Notice also that I put multiple blank spaces after the period following "offense". An inexcusable error according to recent versions of Microsoft word.
Zugmann wants to be the femme fatale .. well ok. You must meet the following qualifications : mysterious, seductive, beautiful women who's charms ensnare her lovers leading them into compromising deadly traps.
.and ... if you change your emoji to Jessica Rabbit.
MiningmanZugmann wants to be the femme fatale .. well ok. You must meet the following qualifications : mysterious, seductive, beautiful women who's charms ensnare her lovers leading them into compromising deadly traps.
I call first dibs on the Timothy Carey type characters.
"Carey was best known for portraying manic or violent characters who are driven to extremes."
Ok .. it's all your's, your chosen name 'Convicted One' qualifies you very well.
Convicted One charlie hebdo *grammer* [It's spelled grammar, unless you are using a term of endearment for your grandmother ]. Ouch! I guess you got me there. Perhaps I was more preoccupied removing the meme of a grammar n.azi that I had originally incorporated into my reply, but removed because I was concerned that it might be construed as offensive by those determined to take offense. I was too lazy to research it's copywrite status, as well. Notice also that I put multiple blank spaces after the period following "offense". An inexcusable error according to recent versions of Microsoft word.
charlie hebdo *grammer* [It's spelled grammar, unless you are using a term of endearment for your grandmother ].
AFAIK, the older style sheet rule of a double blank space after a period or exclamation mark is still acceptable.
The New Zugmann
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zugmann Miningman ...we need a femme fatale Why can't I be?
Miningman ...we need a femme fatale
Princess Luna maybe? Nightmare Moon?
54light15 I have to ask, Overmod- Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is a "besserwisser?" I hate all of these terms- wheelhouse, stay in your lane, gaslight, cuck, libtard; even red state and blue state. I moved to Canada in 1995 and I don't recall anyone using those red-blue terms and none of the others, either.
I have to ask, Overmod- Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is a "besserwisser?"
I hate all of these terms- wheelhouse, stay in your lane, gaslight, cuck, libtard; even red state and blue state. I moved to Canada in 1995 and I don't recall anyone using those red-blue terms and none of the others, either.
Wheelhouse, stolen sports terminology formerly used to describe a batters sweet spot when hitting, the location of a swing most likely to produce a home run. Cuck is just shortened version of cuckold(as if those three extra letters are to much for millenials and gen z to speak). Not sure if you want what libtard is, though it should be pretty obvious which two words got compacted together for that one. As for red state and blue state, those have figured more prominently in more recent elections, but I do recall them even being used in the 70's. I'll refrain from any further explanations, but you can find all the weird uses on urbandictionary should you want or need them.
54light15 wheelhouse, stay in your lane, gaslight, cuck, libtard; even red state and blue state. I moved to Canada in 1995 and I don't recall anyone using those red-blue terms and none of the others, either.
Prior to 1995, we were less PC obsessed, and more colorful terms that were previously popluar have fallen into disuse. The concepts have always been there.
I suppose that is true- plus we didn't have the internet- the great information sewer.
Zugmann- No! Not femme fatalesee enough.
Red States/Blue States and why 54light15 hasn't heard them ..
....because in Canada : Red States are Blue Provinces and Blue States are Red Provinces. Conservatives are Tory's or Torries and are monarchists not Republicans and there is an Orange thing called the New Democrats which these days look like your Democrats but Lberals are Liberals more like your old Democrats. Of course there is also the Blockheads, which is like your old Confederacy. Also First Nation Aboriginal Sovereign Nation , which is like Greenland.
So no one says Red States / Blue States because no one knows what they are talking about.
Miningman Blockheads
Blockheads
It's spelled with a "Q". (just helping our American friends figure out which belle Province they are from)
Can I be a dupe and/or fool in the film? Those are always such fun roles.
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
MiningmanOf course there is also the Blockheads, which is like your old Confederacy.
You mean reactionarily Anglophone "Quebecois"?
I have to confess I've been a dedicated Quebec separatist since my youth. It is after all the only place on earth where a true French bloodline still exists. And it has more than its share ... far more than its share ... of astoundingly good-looking women, seemingly more and more of them as you get further north.
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