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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:24 PM

rdamon

I was able to access the report shortly after the thread was created with the cold link....what has happened since ???????????

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:13 PM

Link as formatted in the original post worked for me this afternoon.  Like an idiot I did not save the downloaded PDF on this computer, and it disappeared just now when I tried to do so.

It's a government server problem, and I expect it will be resolved when the government gets around to it.  Link as provided will work when they do so.

What happened was a developing case of sun kink on track 3 (the most northerly track of the 4) on the Metro-North part of the old New Haven.  Several increasingly urgent calls about hard riding were checked, and increasingly rigorous slow orders issued.  Apparently at least one MU then zipped through the area at track speed, then some fellow says he outright 'forgot' about the issued slow order and went right at it doing 56mph.  He 'emergency braked' when he saw the kink, but put his train on the ground going over it.

There is some mention in the report that this wasn't considered an 'accident', perhaps because nobody died.  I'm not sure I'd concur about the importance.  "Forgetting" a 10mph emergency slow order for progressive track kink could have been almost unbelievably deadly with a full load of passengers at 55mph.

Usual excuses about sleep apnea, failure to use his CPAP, chronic diabetes but wouldn't take his meds, etc.

 

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 8:43 PM

https://www.ntsb.gov/

Does the same ...  hmmm 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:48 PM

Someone out there doesn't want us to read it.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:35 PM
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Microsoft-IIS/7.5
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 00:34:09 GMT
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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:23 PM
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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:56 PM

Could someone please activate the link?  It's hard to do from a phone. 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:25 PM

"Subtle cognitive impairment"

Of course, the real culprits in this accident were the idiot programmers who failed to incorporate emergent severe civil restrictions into a cab signal system.  I see this has not been fixed because they're going to 'wait for PTC to do it'.  Sure hope there isn't another problem before then!

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:17 PM

Seems like poor training is not limited to Amtrak.  Boeing deliberately omitted any mention of the fatal, faulty system on the 737-Max from training manuals: profits and obscene compensation packages for executives over safety and human lives. 

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Poor hiring, vetting, supervision and training procedures.......
Posted by 243129 on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 3:24 PM

......are not exclusive to Amtrak.

This occurred on the former N.Y. N.H. & H. mainline.

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/RAB1905.pdf

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