charlie hebdoIt is 15 minutes. The Hiawatha Service has the best on-time record of any route, exceeding even the Acela NEC target of 90%. But not good enough for you?
Correction: best on-time record of routes on Amtrak. Southwest Airlines has a better ontime record between city pairs I fly than the Hiawatha does.
Either make the schedules more realistic or increase the speed of the train to make the current schedule. Silly to say the train arrives at a fixed time and rarely have the train pull in on that time. The Europeans do a lot better and so do some of our airlines.
BTW, Amtrak Inspector Generals Report on Amtrak timekeeping and it's timekeeping database below. Some of the reports by the Inspector General make you openly wonder about the competence of Amtrak Management in securing an IT system.
https://amtrakoig.gov/sites/default/files/reports/OIG-A-2017-007.pdf
It is 15 minutes. The Hiawatha Service has the best on-time record of any route, exceeding even the Acela NEC target of 90%. But not good enough for you?
BackshopAirlines usually use +/- 15 minutes as being on time.
Surface Transportation Board says it should be 15 minutes for Amtrak as well per Amtrak Office of Inspector General but I believe they are using 10 min because I read that before in a rail study and RPA backs it up. Could be the rail study was off.
charlie hebdoRP is an advocacy group. Their statement is in error. Amtrak publishes official reports monthly. Six minutes late is allowed to be on-time. Airlines have fudge time too. But for you, if you don't like the factual data, you just ignore it.
What statement is in error exactly?
n012944According to the Wisconsin DOT the routes ontime in 2018 was 93%, and in 2017 it was 95%. So using those stats, it would be "pretty rare" to be on a late Hiawatha. I guess just have bad luck, or a cheap watch.
Your using a PPT presentation so it is whenever the presentation was given probably. I have another PPT presentation by the same individual that doesn't match your 2018 figure.
BTW, They state 97% on another website which matches Amtraks %. WisDOT is sourcing the same stats but probably at a point in time versus year end for the PPT presentations, which is logical.
Probably a good argument in there not to use Powerpoint presentations or cite them for year end stats unless the presentation was given at year end.
https://rail.transportation.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/30/2018/10/Arun-Rao-Wisconsin-DOT.pdf
n012944 CMStPnP I ride the Milwaukee to Chicago trains at least twice a year and I look at my watch. Pretty rare for the train to arrive on schedule or early at CUS but not so rare to arrive within that 10 min window Well that is a huge sample size. According to the Wisconsin DOT the routes ontime in 2018 was 93%, and in 2017 it was 95%. So using those stats, it would be "pretty rare" to be on a late Hiawatha. I guess just have bad luck, or a cheap watch. https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/projects/multimodal/rail/rc-rao.pdf
CMStPnP I ride the Milwaukee to Chicago trains at least twice a year and I look at my watch. Pretty rare for the train to arrive on schedule or early at CUS but not so rare to arrive within that 10 min window
I ride the Milwaukee to Chicago trains at least twice a year and I look at my watch. Pretty rare for the train to arrive on schedule or early at CUS but not so rare to arrive within that 10 min window
Well that is a huge sample size.
According to the Wisconsin DOT the routes ontime in 2018 was 93%, and in 2017 it was 95%. So using those stats, it would be "pretty rare" to be on a late Hiawatha. I guess just have bad luck, or a cheap watch.
https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/projects/multimodal/rail/rc-rao.pdf
Maybe it was a conspiracy of the "Joe Lunchpails" against him.?
According to the Wisconsin DOT the routes ontime in 2018 was 93%, and in 2017 it was 95%. So using those stats, it would be "pretty rare" to be on a late Hiawatha. I guess you just have bad luck, or a cheap watch.
An "expensive model collector"
Airlines usually use +/- 15 minutes as being on time.
RP is an advocacy group. Their statement is in error. Amtrak publishes official reports monthly. Six minutes late is allowed to be on-time. Airlines have fudge time too. But for you, if you don't like the factual data, you just ignore it.
And here is how Amtrak actually measures on time performance for it's passenger trains......
https://www.railpassengers.org/site/assets/files/6989/otp_one_pager_v4.pdf
This was also outlined in a WisDOT rail study I posted a ways back but at least two of you missed the explanation and continue to cling to the Amtrak stats as a gold standard. So when Amtrak says 97% ontime performance..........it's actually lower........not a gold standard.
I ride the Milwaukee to Chicago trains at least twice a year and I look at my watch. Pretty rare for the train to arrive on schedule or early at CUS but not so rare to arrive within that 10 min window. So is it on time or not?
Over most of the Milwaukee to Chicago line, CP is the dispatcher not METRA including the portion South of Rondout, IL.......this is according to METRA's own reports or studies of that line.
So I would dispute the Hiawatha 97% stats based on how Amtrak gathers timekeeping stats and determines if a train is late or not. My contention would be the Hiawatha Service has a lower % on time rating just based on me riding the train, it's pretty rare when I ride on the train to pull into CUS right on the mark or for that matter early same deal headed for Milwaukee.
Interesting Amtrak feels it is Federal Law that frieght railroads should give passenger trains preference when dispatching. Apparently NS disagrees.
https://media.amtrak.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CY2017-Report-Card-%E2%80%93-FAQ-%E2%80%93-Route-Details.pdf
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