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Donald Fagan aka Steely Dan has a line about taking the train "The Wolverine" up to Annadale but...its not in Michigan

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Posted by Backshop on Sunday, July 22, 2018 3:19 PM

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CSAO?

 

No, CASO.  Canada Southern.  Nor Conrail Shared Assets Operations.

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, July 22, 2018 2:40 PM

The city in Pennsylvaaia was probably named for Reading in England--and the inhabitants there pronouce it "Redding." 

Have you considered Worcester in Massachusetts? It is pronounced "Wooster."

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Saturday, July 21, 2018 12:03 PM

Freeken east coast town names- Avon Ohio is pronouced Avan in NY and Reading PA is called Redding which is the actual name of a city in Redding CA..

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:00 AM

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Bard College where Danial Fagan was in Annadale on the Hudson

 

As has been pointed out, it is AnnaNdale, not Annadale.

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Posted by guetem1 on Friday, July 20, 2018 11:21 PM
Fagen and Becker met at Bard College
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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Friday, July 20, 2018 3:22 PM

CSAO?

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Friday, July 20, 2018 3:21 PM

Bard College where Danial Fagan was in Annadale on the Hudson

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 4:41 PM

Convicted One

 

 
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I sure hope that the OP never analyzed the lyrics of "Wabash Cannon Ball" or "Orange Blossom Special".

 

Not to mention the Grateful Dead's "Casey Jones"

 

Something tells me the OP is well acquainted with the last part of the first line in the lyrics.

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 4:40 PM

Not London...St. Thomas, further South.

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:26 AM

Living Near Buffalo I forgot that the New York Central had a line in Southern Ontario that went from Black Rock to Detroit via London ON and Windsor ON.

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Posted by Steve B500 on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:12 PM

Candoforprogress2 wrote: You mean to tell me that New York Central had a train from New York Grand Central dirctly to Upstate Michigan by way of the Hudson?

New York Central had many fine passenger trains from Grand Central to Michigan and on to Chicago. The main line basically split at Buffalo- one route south of Lake Erie, one north. The Internet has lots of information on this.

The Wolverine ran through the southern part of the lower peninsula, not "Upstate Michigan." The NYC did have sleeping car service to the northern tip of the lower peninsula. But absolutely nobody in Michigan ever uses the term "Upstate Michigan."

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:12 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH
I sure hope that the OP never analyzed the lyrics of "Wabash Cannon Ball" or "Orange Blossom Special".

Not to mention the Grateful Dead's "Casey Jones"

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Posted by D.Carleton on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:44 PM

Just look out for Chino and Daddy G.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 3:00 PM

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"The Wolverine did stop in Rhinecliff (5.5 miles south of Barrytown)  in 1953."

You mean to tell me that New York Central had a train from New York Grand Central dirctly to Upstate Michigan by way of the Hudson?

 

No one is saying any such thing. Read what has been posted about Annandale on Hudson.

All NYC trains to the Midwest went up along the Hudson as far as Albany.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:50 PM

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The closest stop to Annandale on Hudson (the town? village?) is set back from the Hudson a half-mile or more--and has no railroad.

The stops on the River Line for Bard College are, and were, Rhinecliff and Poughkeepsie.  To this day the college runs shuttle service to those stations on weekends.

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:31 AM

"The Wolverine did stop in Rhinecliff (5.5 miles south of Barrytown)  in 1953."

You mean to tell me that New York Central had a train from New York Grand Central dirctly to Upstate Michigan by way of the Hudson?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:42 AM

Give Becker & Fagen a break, it's poetic license.  I sure hope that the OP never analyzed the lyrics of "Wabash Cannon Ball" or "Orange Blossom Special".

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, July 16, 2018 9:09 PM

Backshop

First, it's Annandale, not Annadale.  Second, the New York Central's Wolverine went from New York to Chicago via the Canadian Southern and Michigan Central.

 

The closest stop to Annandale on Hudson (the town? village?) is set back from the Hudson a half-mile or more--and has no railroad. However, Barrytown, which is on the Hudson was a stop for lesser trains. The Wolverine did stop in Rhinecliff (5.5 miles south of Barrytown)  in 1953.

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Posted by Backshop on Monday, July 16, 2018 8:24 PM

First, it's Annandale, not Annadale.  Second, the New York Central's Wolverine went from New York to Chicago via the Canadian Southern and Michigan Central.

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Posted by Enzoamps on Monday, July 16, 2018 7:05 PM

The song is about things going on at Bard College in Annadale-on-Hudson, in New York.   Nothing to do with Michigan.

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Donald Fagan aka Steely Dan has a line about taking the train "The Wolverine" up to Annadale but...its not in Michigan
Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Monday, July 16, 2018 1:15 PM

In his song "My old School" he talks about taking the Wolverine up to Annadale but I only found 2 towns with that name one in MN and the other one in VA

I cant find a Annadale Michigan but I did find a Annadale Minnisota.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annandale,_Minnesota? Was there a Train called the Wolverine that ran in Minnisota? This seems likely.

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