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[quote user="MidlandMike"]My recollection of the article was Mr Selden was saying that Amtrak did not disclose segment load factors between stations.[/quote] Here a quote from the above linked article: Amtrak has output and load factor data for its three divisions, but goes to great lengths to conceal it, and appears not to use it. He might have meant between station but he said differently. If one measures business success at passenger-miles LD-trains are the largest Amtrak business division. If it qualifies as most successful with a loss of almost $500 million I boubt. When you have an overall (average) load factor there are section with smaller or larger ones. The load factor and passenger-miles are similar to the operating ratio, seen alone they don't tell much. That the NEC needs Amtrak's investment is naturally when one owns the line. The LD-trains are "lucky" that they run on host railroads paying only a small fee and the host all remaining investments and maintenance costs. So I don't care much about the necessary investments into the NEC. As long as the NEC provides a profit it seems worthwhile to me. My judgement of the article hasn't changed, very biased and ignoring facts. There might be a number of reasons to keep the LD-trains but economical success is not one of them. So passenger rail advocats should better concentrate on those more political reasons. Regards, Volker
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