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Cook County IL has a familiar flag kinda Amtrakeqes
Posted by anglecock on Friday, June 17, 2022 4:05 PM
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Posted by anglecock on Monday, June 20, 2022 10:20 AM

Pointless Arrow was a nickname for Amtraks old logo, The way Cook County IL is going their does not seem to be the direction it had in the 1970s and 1980s.  Cook County Il somehow is still the second largest county in the United States.-Cook County Sees Country's Largest Population Loss : NPR---But from what I have seen on my rail and bike trips the suberbs are struggling to provide basic services to its people. I consider Libraries, Parks and Rec Center and Police and Fire to be essntial.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 10:03 AM

If you look at the new Cook County flag in its entirety, it appears to have been heavily influenced by the City of Chicago flag.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 11:09 AM

It strikes me as uninspired, amateurish and ugly, but what do I care, I don't live there.

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Posted by Sunnyland on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 3:12 PM

it does remind me of the Arrow on Amtrak original logo. I have no idea what city of Chicago flag  looks like. City of St. Louis is very unusual, we are not part of any County, St. Louis County is a separate entity. We split years ago in late 1800's and talk had been about merging the two, but City is not interested, because we would just be another municipality not equal with Clayton, which is St. L CO headquarters. We do share some services like FD when needed.

 

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:26 PM

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. I have no idea what city of Chicago flag  looks like.

  

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:50 PM

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Pointless Arrow was a nickname for Amtraks old logo, The way Cook County IL is going their does not seem to be the direction it had in the 1970s and 1980s.  Cook County Il somehow is still the second largest county in the United States.-Cook County Sees Country's Largest Population Loss : NPR---But from what I have seen on my rail and bike trips the suberbs are struggling to provide basic services to its people. I consider Libraries, Parks and Rec Center and Police and Fire to be essntial.

 

Perhaps it depends on the suburbs you visit or ride past?  Not true out here.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:51 PM

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It strikes me as uninspired, amateurish and ugly, but what do I care, I don't live there.

 

And I guess you don't much like it?

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Posted by Gramp on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 12:50 AM

Unfortunate depiction of stars. 
Are the Bears still looking to move to Arlington Park?

With the aridification of the West, where are all of these people going to find water? Unit tankcar trains from the east?

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:29 AM

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Unfortunate depiction of stars. 

All has meaning.  

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-chicago-flag-origins-flag-day-htmlstory.html

  

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 6:51 AM

charlie hebdo

 

 
Flintlock76

It strikes me as uninspired, amateurish and ugly, but what do I care, I don't live there.

 

 

 

And I guess you don't much like it?

 

No.  Wink

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:54 AM

It could have been worse.  Millet's original flag was not only pointless, the arrow faced back toward the staff.  There are some on here who would make much of this.

It appears that the flag is the result of a high-school competition.  The adaptation of Millet's arrow is supposed to represent the Chicago River's split at Wolf Point, and the stars -- Chicago, pay attention, there are five -- are "the color of social change".  While someone might argue that green along the banks of the Chicago River might be a bit specious, it does make for good symbology, once you get the point of the pointlessness, as it were.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 9:20 AM

Here's a pamphlet put out by the North American Vexillogical Association concerning flag design.  The only thing I'd add to it is "Don't try to please everyone, it's a recipe for failure!"

There's one or two examples I don't agree with, but it's a pretty good primer for beginners.

https://britishcountyflags.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/good-flag-bad-flag.pdf

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 9:58 AM

Gramp

Unfortunate depiction of stars. 
Are the Bears still looking to move to Arlington Park?

With the aridification of the West, where are all of these people going to find water? Unit tankcar trains from the east?

 

I will assume that you are discussing Cook County Illinois.  In that case, Lake Michigan has long been the source of water.

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Posted by Gramp on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 12:15 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

 

 
Gramp

Unfortunate depiction of stars. 
Are the Bears still looking to move to Arlington Park?

With the aridification of the West, where are all of these people going to find water? Unit tankcar trains from the east?

 

 

 

I will assume that you are discussing Cook County Illinois.  In that case, Lake Michigan has long been the source of water.

 

I was referring to the article about Chicago's population loss. It mentions large population increases in the Southwest. I have friends in Arizona who are concerned about what will happen if droughts are no longer cyclical out there. Others I know are questioning whether to retire there. 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Thursday, June 23, 2022 3:58 PM

Gramp

 

 
CSSHEGEWISCH

 

 
Gramp

Unfortunate depiction of stars. 
Are the Bears still looking to move to Arlington Park?

With the aridification of the West, where are all of these people going to find water? Unit tankcar trains from the east?

 

 

 

I will assume that you are discussing Cook County Illinois.  In that case, Lake Michigan has long been the source of water.

 

 

 

I was referring to the article about Chicago's population loss. It mentions large population increases in the Southwest. I have friends in Arizona who are concerned about what will happen if droughts are no longer cyclical out there. Others I know are questioning whether to retire there. 

 

You are misinformed. Both the city of Chicago and the metro area had small increases.  It is downstate Illinois that has the losses.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/22956/chicago/population%23:~:text%3DThe%2520current%2520metro%2520area%2520population,a%25200.03%2525%2520increase%2520from%25202019.&ved=2ahUKEwjAtd7jusT4AhX3K0QIHbhqDaIQFnoECBMQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1r0G3l1wUHq2gDDRVIP7-a. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by n012944 on Friday, June 24, 2022 11:31 AM

Interestingly, the US Census says something different.

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Population Estimates, July 1 2021, (V2021)
2,696,555
Population estimates base, April 1, 2020, (V2021)
2,747,231
Population, percent change - April 1, 2020 (estimates base) to July 1, 2021, (V2021)
-1.8%

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, June 24, 2022 2:17 PM

My link was 2022 over previous years, metro area.

Chicago Metro Area Population 1950-2022

Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the Chicago metro area from 1950 to 2022. United Nations population projections are also included through the year 2035.
  • The current metro area population of Chicago in 2022 is 8,901,000, a 0.27% increase from 2021.
  • The metro area population of Chicago in 2021 was 8,877,000, a 0.14% increase from 2020.
  • The metro area population of Chicago in 2020 was 8,865,000, a 0.03% increase from 2019.
  • The metro area population of Chicago in 2019 was 8,862,000, a 0.02% decline from 2018.

The current metro area population of Chicago in 2022 is 8,901,000, a 0.27% increase from 2021. The metro area population of Chicago in 2021 was 8,877,000, a 0.14% increase from 2020. The metro area population of Chicago in 2020 was 8,865,000, a 0.03% increase from 2019.

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Posted by n012944 on Friday, June 24, 2022 9:13 PM

You stated "both the city of Chicago and the metro area have seen small population increase."  Your link didn't break down between the two, and as stated, the US census says something different for the city.  

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Posted by Backshop on Saturday, June 25, 2022 11:20 AM

The slight downturn could be partially due to Covid deaths.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, June 25, 2022 4:21 PM

I want to see the methodology and information sources that an investment site would use to generate population statistics.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, June 25, 2022 5:23 PM

Backshop

The slight downturn could be partially due to Covid deaths.

 

 
A scary item I heard on PBS was about death rates.  According to a Federal expert he said 97% of all Covid deaths are for persons 40 years old and older. Just 3% under 40.
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Posted by zugmann on Saturday, June 25, 2022 10:16 PM

Flintlock76
Here's a pamphlet put out by the North American Vexillogical Association concerning flag design.  The only thing I'd add to it is "Don't try to please everyone, it's a recipe for failure!"

That dude needs to seek therapy. 

 

"It's just a piece of cloth, son"

  

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Posted by rdamon on Sunday, June 26, 2022 10:56 AM

zugmann

 

 
Flintlock76
Here's a pamphlet put out by the North American Vexillogical Association concerning flag design.  The only thing I'd add to it is "Don't try to please everyone, it's a recipe for failure!"

 

That dude needs to seek therapy. 

 

"It's just a piece of cloth, son"

 

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:21 PM

Hoo boy!

OK, Sheldon was a wayward genius, to put it mildly, but take it from me flags and flag histories are a pretty fascinating study when you get into it.  So much history behind them all!  

Hey, and Sheldon was a model railroader too!  He couldn't have been all that wacky, could he?  Whistling

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:25 PM

blue streak 1

 

 
Backshop

The slight downturn could be partially due to Covid deaths.

 

 

 
A scary item I heard on PBS was about death rates.  According to a Federal expert he said 97% of all Covid deaths are for persons 40 years old and older. Just 3% under 40.
 

Really a flip from the Spanish Flu of 100 years ago.  The prime victims of the Spanish Flu were young adults in their late 'Teens to Mid-Twenties.  Children didn't seem to be affected much and neither were most mature adults, say thirty years old or older. 

Of course with COVID if you had serious health issues to begin with such as obesity, heart disease, and various lung disorders you were very much at risk. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, June 26, 2022 12:28 PM

Overmod

I want to see the methodology and information sources that an investment site would use to generate population statistics.

 

Who's moving out and who's moving in?  Check with people like Atlas Van Lines or other moving companies.  Their figures don't lie.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:53 PM

n012944

You stated "both the city of Chicago and the metro area have seen small population increase."  Your link didn't break down between the two, and as stated, the US census says something different for the city.  

 

Yes.  However I did see a recent article somewhere (don't know where) that mentioned Chicago has had a slight up turn.  Downstate Illinois is the big loser

 

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, June 27, 2022 10:18 PM

charlie hebdo
 
n012944

You stated "both the city of Chicago and the metro area have seen small population increase."  Your link didn't break down between the two, and as stated, the US census says something different for the city.   

Yes.  However I did see a recent article somewhere (don't know where) that mentioned Chicago has had a slight up turn.  Downstate Illinois is the big loser

All things considered - can we really rely on the 2020 Census being accurate?

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