By far the best TGV action sequence in a movie so far. Even captured American sterotypes of the French in the last few seconds of the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WaXuRWGrvw
More like a fantasy cartoon.
charlie hebdoMore like a fantasy cartoon.
Can't envision a helicopter flying inside a tunnel with catenary and the rotor not hitting any part of the tunnel walls or the catenary, let alone a train passing on the adjacent track in the opposite direction. And there is the wind acting upon persons outside the train.
I kept looking for 'Manufactured by Acme Inc.'
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Tunnel for sure, but where was the catenary the whole rest of the scene in the outdoors? Pretty hard to fly a helicopter over all the catenary hanging a rope down for someone to climb, eh?
Causes me to ask. On a two-pantograph locomotive like a GG1 or even current Amtrak types, they generally use one up and one down. Is the down one disconnected or otherwise turned off? or is it still wired to the other internally. In other words if you climbed across the down pantograph would you be in danger of electrical shock from it as though touching the catenary.?
EnzoampsTunnel for sure, but where was the catenary the whole rest of the scene in the outdoors? Pretty hard to fly a helicopter over all the catenary hanging a rope down for someone to climb, eh?
There was no catenary. The train must have had a diesel locomotive upfront as there is no diesel TGV.
Standing up under a 25 kV catenary wouldn't a good idea either. We have a number of death each year caused by arcing when kids climb freight cars under catenery.
For the same reason, arcing between pantograph and carbody, I think the pantograph is shut-off in the lowered position.
What is about the helicopter? I'd expect the rotor blades go to pieces when they hit the tunnel portal.
IIRC according to the movie script the scene is between London and Paris. The tunnel is supposed to be the Eurotunnel. That tunnel has two tubes with one track each. The correct train would have been an Eurostar. It has additionally a 750 V 3rd rail shoe for use on some British rails. The max. speed is then less than 100 mph.
So the missing catenary might be correct, but train and tunnel are wrong.Regards, Volker
Edit: The Channel Tunnel always had a catenary. The change over to 3rd rail of the Southern Region of British Rail took place between Folkestone Shuttle Terminal and Dollands Moor Freight Yard about 4 miles from the tunnel portal.
It was 750 V 3rd rail to London until November 2007 when the high speed line with catenary was completed.
Eurostar bogie: http://extra.southernelectric.org.uk/news/eurostar/img/cd373202pickup131107.jpgAs consequence the 3rd rail shoes were removed.
Thanks, Volker. The non-knowledge of reality concerning railroad operation on the part of movie producers is quite evident in this prodution. Were the rotor blades contracted while in the tunnel?
Oh, by the way, I noticed you wrote "...an Eurostar." It is true that if a word begins with a vowell, the indefinite article used is "an"--but I was taught that this does not apply if the word is pronounced as though it began with a consonant ("Yourostar," not "Ourostar.") English can be extremely difficult to use.
Johnny
The joy of an exciting action movie scene.
Computer graphic effects - erase what isn't wanted and add what's wanted.
(Also why I'm so skeptical of "news media" these days).
DeggestyOh, by the way, I noticed you wrote "...an Eurostar." It is true that if a word begins with a vowell, the indefinite article used is "an"--but I was taught that this does not apply if the word is pronounced as though it began with a consonant ("Yourostar," not "Ourostar.") English can be extremely difficult to use.
Sorry that Ihave it wrong. I learned English and its rules as second language more than 50 years ago. Since than I have used it but grammar and spelling didn't get better, they developed more into the wrong direction.
So feel free to correct me.Regards, Volker
DeggestyThanks, Volker. The non-knowledge of reality concerning railroad operation on the part of movie producers is quite evident in this prodution. Were the rotor blades contracted while in the tunnel? Oh, by the way, I noticed you wrote "...an Eurostar." It is true that if a word begins with a vowell, the indefinite article used is "an"--but I was taught that this does not apply if the word is pronounced as though it began with a consonant ("Yourostar," not "Ourostar.") English can be extremely difficult to use.
English is difficult for those of us who use it as a first and only language.
Euro (and Eurostar) is pronounced your-oh in English, thus taking the indefinite article 'a' before it. But in Germqn, it's pronounced oy-roh, so a German speaker might easily think he should use 'an' before it. Just speculating.
charlie hebdoEuro (and Eurostar) is pronounced your-oh in English, thus taking the indefinate article 'a' before it. But in Germqn, it's pronounced oy-roh, so a German speaker might easily think he should use 'an' before it. Just speculating.
When I speak English I pronounce Euro as your-oh too. I just didn't know/remember. I only remembered the "an" in front of a vocal.
If that were my only mistakes writing English I'd be glad.Regards, Volker
BaltACD English is difficult for those of us who use it as a first and only language.
We cannot even agree with the Brits.
Especially when you watch British TV shows on PBS. The is not used very much Ex ___ hospital , ___ university, ___ pub Lets go to pub. Right for OK
blue streak 1We cannot even agree with the Brits.
There is a reason for the saying "USA an Britain, to nations separated by a common language"
You may say the same about Austria and Germany.Regards, Volker
The spelling of some words changes too.
Color vs colour comes to mind.
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
I don't know what you guys are talking about. I watch the BBC and they seem fairly normal to me.........check out the sample professional clip below....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0CU399Tz2E
How you pronounce a word in English can change it's meaning entirely. In the US there is the Department of Defense. In hockey, football or basketball, you have dee-fense. If you work for me I expect you to produce. I think I will buy some produce at the supermarket.
Enzoamps Causes me to ask. On a two-pantograph locomotive like a GG1 or even current Amtrak types, they generally use one up and one down. Is the down one disconnected or otherwise turned off? or is it still wired to the other internally. In other words if you climbed across the down pantograph would you be in danger of electrical shock from it as though touching the catenary.?
Quoting the man who enjoys two train rides a day: "I've read in employee TT's of electrified operations that if one pantograph is contacting the wire, both pantographs should be considered live. This applies to both locomotives and MU cars with two pantographs." This is ceratinly the safer course--you may think the pantograph that is down is not connected--until you touch it.
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