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[quote user="blue streak 1"] Dakota how about comparing revenue passenger miles with costs ? [/quote] In FY13 the average cost per passenger mile before OPEBs, depreciation, and interest was 40 cents for the NEC, 42 cents for the State Supported and Other Short Distance Trains (SSOSD), and 40 cents for the Long Distance Trains (LD).  The average cost of the OPEBs per passenger mile was one cent for all three service lines.  All numbers have been rounded for clarity.  The average total revenue per passenger mile was 61 cents for the NEC, 34 cents for the SSOSD, and 20 cents for the LD. The average cost per passenger, including OPEBS, before depreciation and interest was $66.70 for the NEC, $56.51 for the SSOSD, and $251.54 for the LD.  The average cost of the OPEBs per passenger was $1.68 for the NEC, $1.46 for the SSOSD, and $7.00 for the LD. The average total revenue per passenger was $99.43 for the NEC, $44.78 for the SSOSD, and $119.63 for the LD. The average core contribution per passenger before depreciation, interest, etc. was $32.72 for the NEC, offset by losses of $11.73 for the SSOSD and $131.91 for the LD.  Assuming 80 per cent of the depreciation and interest is worn by the NEC, with the remainder being allocated equally over the other two service lines, which as noted above is a guesstimate, the average loss per passenger for the NEC was $18.10 compared to $14.01 for the SSOSD (after adjustment for State Capital Payments) and $147.14 for the LD. Clearly, the problem for the long distance trains is revenue.  They cannot generate enough revenue to cover their costs, and this is not likely to change. The numbers are averages.  Distribution of revenues and costs by route segments would likely produce significantly different results from one segment to another.  Unfortunately, Amtrak does not make this information available, or if they do I have not been able to find it.
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