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[quote user="henry6"] If a business can operate or a town can exist because there is a train seat to the factory or in and out of town and they benefit by the rider coming into town, then the final value is not in the cost of the ticket paid by the rider but at the point of benefit to the business or municipality.  Which is impossible to calculate!  And is an argument used by those who want a service that the users cannot or will not pay for.     As for more government or socialism, it is too late to argue that because it has been going on in transportation since th Post Roads were deemed important by our Founding Fathers and part of our practice of government since.  Most of the early transport infrastructure was supported in part by a government, although not always the federal government, with the expectation that the users would pay for it.  But not all of it.  Many of the early toll roads and bridges in Texas at least were built by private interests that hoped to earn a return on their investment. And in most instances they have.   The one glaring exception is passenger rail since the private carriers gave up on it. This is true for public transit as well as intercity rail. I and not saying that government should not be involved nor am I saying that it should not help people use it if it is in the national interest.  I am saying, however, that it should be priced properly. [/quote]
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