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<P mce_keep="true">[quote user="henry6"] <P>Bucyrus, you know nothing has been done re: HSR so it is entirely possible that somebody along the way will have it or part of it done by private industry with government insured loans if not government loans period. Look at today's gaspipeline story in Trains newswire.</P> <P>And that $8 billion downpayment is exactly why I fear China, it's power and influence on us now and for the future and fear making that indebtedness...financial and othewise...larger.</P> <P>[/quote]</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>I agree with your fear of China holding too much U.S. debt, but I also fear just the prospect of too much U.S. debt period, no matter who holds it.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>So far, I have not heard any mention of the consideration of our national HSR being funded by private investment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You mentioned government-backed loans to private developers, but that still has all the attributes of a publicly financed project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I just don’t think that the majority of proposed HSR has the money-making potential to attract private investment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not being promoted in a way that suggests it will make more money than it costs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is being promoted as simply a public good.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>While we have talked about my objection to unfair distribution of HSR costs to those who will not use it, that is the least of my concerns.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So just to be clear, here are the four reasons I oppose national HSR in order from least concern to highest concern.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>1)<FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN>The unfairness of the personal disparity between users and the payers.</FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>2)<FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN>The overall disparity between total cost of HSR and its total usefulness.</FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>3)<FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN>The detrimental economic effect of the deficit spending needed to build and operate HSR</FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>4)<FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN>The inefficiency of building and operating HSR as publicly funded, government-run endeavor. </FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2>If HSR is built with private investment, as you suggest, then my four abovementioned concerns evaporate. </FONT></SPAN></P>
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