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[quote user="Phoebe Vet"] 384 passengers a day is 64 passengers per train, assuming even distribution, which is unlikely, in one city. Subsidy is a red herring.  All mass transit is subsidized. [/quote] An average of 64 passengers per day is slightly more than the capacity of a Greyhound bus.  The ITC in Fort Worth, which appears to be smaller than the Raleigh Amtrak Station, handles more than 20 Greyhound, Amtrak, and local bus movements in a 24 hour period without breaking a sweat. Subsidies are real money paid by taxpayers.  Only those who don't understand finance or don't want to understand it believe it is a red herring. All forms of commercial transport in the U.S. receive some government subsidies.  In 2007 federal subsidies averaged 24.18 cent per passenger mile for Amtrak as compared to .0044 cents for commercial air and .0138 cents for motorists.  Even if local government subsidies jacked up the commercial air and motorist subsidy by a nickel per passenger mile, which is probably not true, they would not be anywhere near the subsidies required by passenger rail.  Only passenger rail, i.e. Amtrak, commuter rail, light rail, etc., depend on large subsidies paid by non-users.
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