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METRA announces order for up to 500 new passenger cars

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METRA announces order for up to 500 new passenger cars
Posted by n012944 on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:45 PM

https://metrarail.com/about-metra/newsroom/metra-board-approves-purchase-500-modern-railcars

 

I wonder how the engineers will like being moved to the lower level? 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM

I didn't see where cab cars were mentioned.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 6:50 PM

The photo (& video) show the operators spot on the first floor.  These are mid-section double-deckers rather than gallery cars, and there is no second floor at the car ends.  HVAC above cab.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 10:50 PM

Will be much nicer than the drafty and always get a chill in the winter current set of cattle cars.    Stairs wider,  none of this atrium aisle crap for ticket collection, better seats, double set of doors for faster loading and unloading, bigger windows, etc.   I'll bet those HVAC packs are more than adequate in winter.

 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:27 AM

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Will be much nicer than the drafty and always get a chill in the winter current set of cattle cars.    Stairs wider,  none of this atrium aisle crap for ticket collection, better seats, double set of doors for faster loading and unloading, bigger windows, etc.   I'll bet those HVAC packs are more than adequate in winter.

 

 

Agreed.  I've ridden on cars of similar design in Germany. A much more pleasant experience and faster loading and unloading.  Replacing those 50+ year-old designs finally!!

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Posted by D.Carleton on Friday, January 15, 2021 2:30 PM
Now all they need are some Chargers to pull/push them.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, January 15, 2021 3:34 PM

D.Carleton

Now all they need are some Chargers to pull/push them.

Aren't they going with rebuilt SD70MAC's instead?

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Posted by D.Carleton on Friday, January 15, 2021 4:57 PM

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Now all they need are some Chargers to pull/push them.

 

Aren't they going with rebuilt SD70MAC's instead?

The "SD70MACH" was announced two years ago next month. Nothing seems to have happened since.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, January 16, 2021 10:00 AM

The SD70MACH required a fair amount of engineering to fit the HEP package and other items onto an existing locomotive.  A long lead time for production was announced at the time.

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Posted by D.Carleton on Saturday, January 16, 2021 2:29 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

The SD70MACH required a fair amount of engineering to fit the HEP package and other items onto an existing locomotive.  A long lead time for production was announced at the time.

As much as I would like to see more Chargers in the field (enlightened self-interest) seeing six-axle passenger power come back in the USA is intriguing

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, January 16, 2021 4:41 PM

Did anyone note the number of seats on these new cars? I did not find it. I do think the narrow stairs on the old galley cars will not be missed.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 9:59 AM

Wider stairs may be difficult to impossible to include in the design.  The Superliner stairs are also quite narrow and I couldn't see how wider stairs could fit.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 2:56 PM

If the stairs are anything like those on the similar German cars,  they are wider, half a flight up,  half a flight down from the entry door level at each end. 

https://images.app.goo.gl/8AGjtGov6JYVNsrZA

 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:09 PM

Mentioning that 'entry door level', I was expecting these cars to have both high-platform and low-height doors, but I only see the low doors in the renderings.  Are these cars not operating anywhere there are 'Continental' platforms?

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Posted by D.Carleton on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:26 PM

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Mentioning that 'entry door level', I was expecting these cars to have both high-platform and low-height doors, but I only see the low doors in the renderings.  Are these cars not operating anywhere there are 'Continental' platforms?

Metra's current fleet of gallery cars all serve 'low-level' platforms so no need for a second set of doors. Now should an EMU variant of this vehicle ever transpire for the IC and/or South Shore lines then they shall have to break out their slide rules again.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:04 AM

South Shore and the Electric District both have gallery cars for high-level platforms so it shouldn't be a major engineering issue.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Thursday, January 21, 2021 9:40 PM

Gallery cars have their lower floor above the trucks while the new Multi-level cars have an end level floor above the trucks and a lower level floor (1/2 flight down) between the trucks plus the upper level (1/2 flight up from the end level) floor. If you want high level platform operation, you put the doors on the end section (above the trucks).

Also the operators cab on the new cars is at the same level as the Metra Electric District Gallery cars, (above the trucks). 

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