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Rough evening for New Jersey commuters

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Rough evening for New Jersey commuters
Posted by NKP guy on Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:24 PM

      Sometimes it's difficult to be enthusiastic about commuting or trains:

https://gothamist.com/news/broken-signal-breeds-rush-hour-chaos-penn-station-its-honestly-not-safe

 

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:16 PM

Too late for the March issue, but I can't wait to see the NJ Transit rants in April's "Railpace."  

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, February 28, 2020 8:15 AM

We had a bad accident involving a couple tractor trailers the other day.  Roads were a complete mess, commuters delayed.  

 

Probably won't rate a rant. 

 The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer or any other railroad, company, or person.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, February 28, 2020 9:04 AM

zugmann

We had a bad accident involving a couple tractor trailers the other day.  Roads were a complete mess, commuters delayed.  

 

Probably won't rate a rant. 

 

No, for highway mishaps and accidents there's the "Route 80 Rant Page" on Facebook.  "Railpace" doesn't care about rubber tires on asphalt.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, February 28, 2020 9:13 AM

Something of interest here is the abject failure of 'social media' to produce the reverse analogue of a flashmob here.

The crowd is a byproduct of some interesting traffic dynamics: a great inrush of people from various modes of transport within a short time, expecting to be carried out through a very restricted portal -- with that portal being interdicted after most of them had 'committed' to entering the approach facilities.

This indicates that a very quick 'Job 1' for NJT (and perhaps Penn Station management as well) is to set up and publicize 'emergency response' apps that can track a person's location and give them very specific alternatives on where to go and what to do (aside from going to Pennsy before it gets the boot later this year!) to keep out of each others' way.  This would be a very different thing from saying something like "massive traffic snarls - avoid this area" on light-up notice boards or TV reports, which used to be the kind of CYA that transportation agencies thought was sufficient.  It should be possible to manage the response in stages: delocalize the crowd until, say, the additional trains on PATH were actually en route or ready, then direct them in a JIT fashion to control choke crowding at any intermediate point as well as on the actual platforms.

Be an interesting thesis for someone in computer science, as well as a highly useful utility app for commuters should the back-end be properly coded and then executed.  Think of the opportunities for local and perhaps not-so-local businesses!

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, February 28, 2020 1:15 PM

Here's the story...

https://www.nj.com/traffic/2020/02/nj-transit-train-ran-a-red-light-setting-off-commuting-chaos-at-penn-station.html  

Brilliant suggestion Overmod!  The problem is, it would need someone in the NJ Transit bureaucracy to make a decision to get the ball rolling on it.  Good luck at finding someone willing to make a decision. 

By the way, yesterday nj.com eliminated the "Reader's Comments" section of their on-line news stories.  I can imagine the comments this story would have generated.

Some of the comments on news stories made my hair stand on end!  Although to be fair some were quite funny, some downright hilarious, and some quite profound.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, February 28, 2020 5:59 PM

Flintlock76
Here's the story...

https://www.nj.com/traffic/2020/02/nj-transit-train-ran-a-red-light-setting-off-commuting-chaos-at-penn-station.html  

Brilliant suggestion Overmod!  The problem is, it would need someone in the NJ Transit bureaucracy to make a decision to get the ball rolling on it.  Good luck at finding someone willing to make a decision. 

By the way, yesterday nj.com eliminated the "Reader's Comments" section of their on-line news stories.  I can imagine the comments this story would have generated.

Some of the comments on news stories made my hair stand on end!  Although to be fair some were quite funny, some downright hilarious, and some quite profound. 

I am sure this will help the operations through the New York tunnels for years to come. 

https://www.progressiverailroading.com/federal_legislation_regulation/news/Chao-Fix-Hudson-River-rail-tunnel-instead-of-building-new--59848

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, April 25, 2021 2:36 AM

 

NJ Transit completes locomotive engineer roster

 

New Jersey Transit now has a full roster of locomotive engineers, New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy announced yesterday.

 

NJ Transit's latest locomotive engineer training class is in the final stages of field training and will begin final check rides in the next few weeks. With this class, NJ Transit has added more than 100 new locomotive engineers to its roster since 2018, agency officials said in a press release.

 

The class of nine engineer trainees completed a 78-week program and passed extensive testing. Their graduation will bring the total number of new engineers that have joined NJ Transit since 2018 to 103 and brings the total active roster of engineers to 393.

 

The next locomotive engineer training class is set to graduate in June.

 

 

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, April 25, 2021 7:46 AM

There is only one constant in travel - Delays will happen.  It makes no difference in the mode of transportation being used - delays will happen.  They will happen for a multiplicity of reasons, some preventable in the long run, however travel is a short run undertaking as one wants to get from here to there - NOW.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 10:53 AM

A rough afternoon for some more NJ Transit commuters.

https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/paramus/news/update-man-struck-killed-by-train-in-hackensack/807752/

Happens at least once a month somewhere on the system.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:56 PM

Flintlock76
A rough afternoon for some more NJ Transit commuters.

https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/paramus/news/update-man-struck-killed-by-train-in-hackensack/807752/

Happens at least once a month somewhere on the system.

Striking pedestrian/trespassers is just a routine impediment to rail transportation.  Nothing new, nothing to see here, move along!

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:25 PM

BaltACD
Striking pedestrian/trespassers is just a routine impediment to rail transportation.  Nothing new, nothing to see here, move along!

No doubt, but I'd hate to be the head-end crew just the same. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:44 PM

Flintlock76
 
BaltACD
Striking pedestrian/trespassers is just a routine impediment to rail transportation.  Nothing new, nothing to see here, move along! 

No doubt, but I'd hate to be the head-end crew just the same. 

Unfortunately, it is not a matter of IF - It is only a matter of  when.

Those involved in any form of road service are more likely to be involved in the incident than those that work only Yard jobs - but there are locations and situations in Yards where it also happens.

On CSX, pre EHH, when such a incident happened the crew members involved were permitted/encouraged to call 'Critical Incident' relief.  Those involved in the Critical Incident program would be hooked up with mental health professionals to attempt to handle the employees issues.  How successfully?????

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