We are looking west from Brooklyn's now D-train, was B, Ninth Avenue Station, possibly fromt the days when the M from Metroplitan Avenue ran through the Nassau cut (from Manhattan to the BMT tunnel in use), now out of service, and reversed on Ninth Avenue's center track.
The Lion appears to be at the end just before the back of the signal of the fence to the left of the center track.
The ramps with tracks going up lead to the 39th Street yard. The ramps going down are for the old Culver Line and their tracks end at the east end of the station, with the abandonement of both South Brooklyn railroad surface tracks and Culver elevated tracks between Ninth Avenue and Ditmas and MacDonald Avenues, where the F runs. The ramps in the distance going up, wihtout tracks, were for the Culver elevated trains,, and were out of service after the June 1940 Unification, and led to the Fifth Avenue Elevated to downtown Brooklyn and the Brooklyn Bridge. Current service at Ninth Avenue is only the D.
Gate cars ran underground at 9th Avenue Station, and in the Center Street - Nassau subway between the Manhattan portal of the Williamsburg Bridge and Chamber Street until there were enough "steels" to handle the entire Jamaica Broadway elevated ervice. The last were the 1300-series composite convertables, which were mosly steel, but sill had open platforms and gates and elevated car geometry, and were last used on the Myrtle Avenue elevated.
Nearly all BMT equipment, subway and elelvated, had some transverse seating. There were some center-door-equipped wood gate trailers that were bowling aliys, the only exceptions.
The remaining R-46's are the last NYCity subway cars with some transverse seating. These are the remaining 75-foot cars, longest train eight cars. All the newer equipment on the B Division are 60-foot cars, with ten-car trains, all bowling allys.
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BroadwayLion NorthWest Indeed Firelock it does appear to be an early car, probably one of their restored gate cars. They date from before WWI. And of course (along with the R7A above) they were from the era when 'cloth seating' was not synonymous with 'vandal target'. Gate cars were wooden cars, and thus never ran underground. But then, the BMT did have lots of above ground lines back in those days. It was a BMT car since IRT cars only had tranverse seating. (Not so sure about the El lines in Manhattan). IRT cars (Hi-V and Lo-V) had metal loops for standees, not these leather straps. Some of the old El cars did find their way onto the BMT and lived out their days on the Myrtle Line. This car is definetly a Gate Car and was on a Museum Trip through Brooklyn. ROAR
NorthWest Indeed Firelock it does appear to be an early car, probably one of their restored gate cars. They date from before WWI. And of course (along with the R7A above) they were from the era when 'cloth seating' was not synonymous with 'vandal target'.
Indeed Firelock it does appear to be an early car, probably one of their restored gate cars. They date from before WWI. And of course (along with the R7A above) they were from the era when 'cloth seating' was not synonymous with 'vandal target'.
Gate cars were wooden cars, and thus never ran underground. But then, the BMT did have lots of above ground lines back in those days. It was a BMT car since IRT cars only had tranverse seating. (Not so sure about the El lines in Manhattan).
IRT cars (Hi-V and Lo-V) had metal loops for standees, not these leather straps.
Some of the old El cars did find their way onto the BMT and lived out their days on the Myrtle Line.
This car is definetly a Gate Car and was on a Museum Trip through Brooklyn.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Bcgg8nhyg
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?80394
I can remember when I was growing up in the city the only cars left with transverse seating were the BMT standards on the Canarsie line. All the rest had fibreglass longitudinal seating. It was not til the R-44's that transverse seating reappeared on the subway.
I do have to look at other sources as I have found on occasion my memory has failed me.
Nice to see the Lion back in these pages
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They didn't worry too much about vandalism back in those days, especially since all the cops had nightsticks and weren't afraid to use them on malcontents.
Love that old car though, has kind of a "Jules Verne-ish" look to it, doesn't it?
What a fantastic interior in that subway car! Is that one of the Transit Museum's First World War vintage cars?
OMG someone forgot to neuter or spay their pets.
CSSHEGEWISCH LION is sitting by the window on the left. I'm also going to guess that this car was assigned to the IRT, which had a narrower clearance diagram.
LION is sitting by the window on the left. I'm also going to guess that this car was assigned to the IRT, which had a narrower clearance diagram.
Correct you is. The R-12 has the same roof line as its IND cousin the R-10.
The R-11 was different. It was designed for the SECOND AVENUE SUBWAY as it was planned for an early 1950s opening.
Ow well, 70 years too late, what is the big deal.
Firelock76Nah, that's one of the interiors in one of Brother Lion's HO subway cars!
If thats HO, the lion is making his likeness by microscope. I think the museum suggestion is correct.
Nah, that's one of the interiors in one of Brother Lion's HO subway cars!
Helluva modeler, isn't he?
Probably because it is a museum car in the New York Transit Museum.
Welcome back Lion, and hopefully there is more!
Looks lonely. Where are all the the passengers? Rarely does one see an empty car in service in NYC
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