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Metro North Derailment this morning

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:42 PM

That't the 4 scenarios: he applied and the brakes didn't respond, he applied and the train skidded or slid, or he applied the brakes too late, or he didn't apply the brakes which are the crux of what occurred.


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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:04 PM

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The engineer reportedly radio'd in about the derailment and it was quoted that he said he applied the brakes but they didn't apply.  The black box from the cab car is reported to have been recovered.  It will be interesting to see what it reveals.  If the engineer is telling the truth, not lying or hiding anything, I wonder if there was a frost or ice on the rails causing the train to slide or skid rendering the brakes ineffective.  That, and all else I or anyone else says is heaped in speculation more than fact

If he applied the brakes and the train slid, that is one thing, If he applied the brakes and they did not apply, that is quite another. And the engineer WILL know the difference.

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, December 1, 2013 7:08 PM

I've not been able to follow all coverage but I have had comments about the engorged mouths of opportunistic politicians and ignorance of journalists.   Seems someone along the day had to explain to both the concept and mechanisms of push-pull technology and the difference between a conductor and an engineer.   

The engineer reportedly radio'd in about the derailment and it was quoted that he said he applied the brakes but they didn't apply.  The black box from the cab car is reported to have been recovered.  It will be interesting to see what it reveals.  If the engineer is telling the truth, not lying or hiding anything, I wonder if there was a frost or ice on the rails causing the train to slide or skid rendering the brakes ineffective.  That, and all else I or anyone else says is heaped in speculation more than fact.

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Posted by pajrr on Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:02 PM

That is the current Spuyten Duyvil Station. The train was not scheduled to stop there. It's last stop before 125th Street and Grand Central was Tarrytown, Ny. This train was an express from Poughkeepsie. Some reporters question the curve. That curve has been there over 100 years. To me, the way the train tipped it looks like excessive speed. I do hope for the engineer's sake that the brakes did fail and that he wasn't texting or BSing on a cellphone.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:37 PM

POTUS and GovNY have already checked in with, "Sympathy," messages.

Is that an active station just ahead of the carnage, or is it just a ghost of commuter service past?

The comments after the ABC.com coverage are full of uninformed sound and fury - none of it worth the wasted bandwith.

As for me, I haven't been in that neighborhood for 57+ years, so I have no dog in this hunt.  When the official FRA report comes out, I'll read it.  Until then, no further comment.

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, December 1, 2013 3:37 PM
From The New York Times:

4 Dead in Metro-North Train Derailment in the Bronx

A Fire Department official said more than 60 passengers were injured after several train cars went off the tracks near the Spuyten Duyvil station on Sunday morning.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/nyregion/metro-north-derailment.html


Also the New York Daily News


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-bound-metro-north-passenger-train-derails-bronx-article-1.1533963


The Times is usuakky better with info and the Daily News has lots of pics.

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, December 1, 2013 11:54 AM

The engineer reportedly radio'd the derailment saying he applied brakes going into Spuyten Devil interlocking and curve but the brakes failed.  4 dead, 63 injured.  All NY TV  stations, radio stations,and newspapers have reports, pics, and video on line.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, December 1, 2013 11:21 AM

It was near the site of a CSX derail in July. Officials say: Not Related.

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Posted by Fox2! on Sunday, December 1, 2013 11:08 AM

Was this near the site of the MSW derail and track repair of a few months ago? 

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Metro North Derailment this morning
Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:59 AM

4 dead, 57 injured (and counting). Train was operating south from Pokeepsie to GCT cab forward.

More: http://www.businessinsider.com/metro-north-train-derails-in-the-bronx-2013-12

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