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Deblasio and NYT just spent 227 Million Dollars on a commuter ferry according to the NY Daily News as reported today

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Deblasio and NYT just spent 227 Million Dollars on a commuter ferry according to the NY Daily News as reported today
Posted by anglecock on Thursday, July 7, 2022 3:10 PM

The ferry was supposed to supliment subway service by having a direct connection from the Bronx to Brooklyn The boat cost 8 million but the company recieved 200 million in subsidies . The ferry gets about 11,000 riders a day. Not sure what the fare is or if all day passes apply here. also dont know how subway riders transfer between the train and the boat. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, July 7, 2022 5:45 PM

So you don't know anything of consequence.

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Posted by anglecock on Friday, July 8, 2022 10:19 AM

All I know is that I have ridden commuter Ferries in Boston and in Vermont. Water transport is expensive for people. Rochester NY had a fast ferry to Canada that lasted less then a year that the city is still paying off the bonds on and will be paying off for the next 30 years.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, July 8, 2022 6:11 PM

anglecock
All I know is that I have ridden commuter Ferries in Boston and in Vermont. Water transport is expensive for people. Rochester NY had a fast ferry to Canada that lasted less then a year that the city is still paying off the bonds on and will be paying off for the next 30 years.

There are myriad ferries that are operating all around the country, and do so profitable with with a politically acceptable level of subsidy.  Many of the ferries that were eliminated by highway/bridge construction had the construction cost tens to hundreds of times what it cost to operate the ferry.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, July 9, 2022 3:45 PM

BaltACD
BaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence.

BaltACD
BaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence.

Balt, you are getting snarky today.

 

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, July 9, 2022 4:11 PM

Since this is in a Transit blog and about ferries, and since this started with a NYC item, I would like to bring up a ferry operation I have experienced and think highly about. The Vancouver BC SEABUS. It has similarities to a subway car in that it has multiple big doors on its sides and operates between to multiple bus line terminals. They have a new ferry. This is p/o their transit system. 

Its operation is similar to the NYC subway's Times Square Shuttle. It loads through four big doors on one. side after discharges through four big doors on the other side. Four diesel motors drive four props (two on each end). Runs through the busy Burrard Inlet. 

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/burrard-chinook-seabus-first-nations-art-translink

You can find videos on YOUTUBE which I .can not link to on here.

 

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, July 9, 2022 8:58 PM

Electroliner 1935
 
BaltACD
BaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence. 
BaltACD
BaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence.

Balt, you are getting snarky today.

Should I have said anglecock was broken and just blowing air, not letting the trainline build pressure?

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Posted by sandyhookken on Monday, July 11, 2022 3:18 PM

The NYC Ferry system is a pet project of the DiBlasio Administration. It is not the Staten Island Ferry! The SI Ferry is run by the NYC Dept. of Transportation; the NYC Ferry is run by an office in the mayor's administration. The fare on the SI Ferry is $0.00 (FREE); the NYC Ferry is $2.75, the same as the Subway. 

Last year, a local NYC TV station had a report on the NYC Ferry in which it claimed that the city subsidy was almost $10 per rider. The reporter also showed a video of a boat arriving at Pier 11 (the main terminal) with more crew members than passengers aboard.

The new Adams Administration has promised to do a review of the entire operation of the NYC Ferry. I would not be surprized to see the system closed once the contract with the operator expires. Another idea mentioned on the TV report was to transfer operations to the NYC DoT group that runs the SI Ferry.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, July 11, 2022 4:06 PM

sandyhookken
The NYC Ferry system is a pet project of the DiBlasio Administration. It is not the Staten Island Ferry! The SI Ferry is run by the NYC Dept. of Transportation; the NYC Ferry is run by an office in the mayor's administration. The fare on the SI Ferry is $0.00 (FREE); the NYC Ferry is $2.75, the same as the Subway. 

Last year, a local NYC TV station had a report on the NYC Ferry in which it claimed that the city subsidy was almost $10 per rider. The reporter also showed a video of a boat arriving at Pier 11 (the main terminal) with more crew members than passengers aboard.

The new Adams Administration has promised to do a review of the entire operation of the NYC Ferry. I would not be surprized to see the system closed once the contract with the operator expires. Another idea mentioned on the TV report was to transfer operations to the NYC DoT group that runs the SI Ferry.

What are the terminal points of the NYC Ferry System?

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, July 11, 2022 8:34 PM

BaltACD
What are the terminal points of the NYC Ferry System?

https://images.ferry.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/01210547/Summer-2022-Map.png

It doesn't show the Staten Island Ferry which runs from St George to the south tip of Manhattan Island.  There are also NJ-NY ferries:

https://www.nywaterway.com/ferryterminals.aspx

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, July 11, 2022 9:13 PM

MidlandMike

 BaltACD

What are the terminal points of the NYC Ferry System? 

https://images.ferry.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/01210547/Summer-2022-Map.png

It doesn't show the Staten Island Ferry which runs from St George to the south tip of Manhattan Island.  There are also NJ-NY ferries:

https://www.nywaterway.com/ferryterminals.aspx

Amongst all the ferry operators it is a much more extensive system than I could ever conceive of operating in the 21st Century.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 8:37 PM

I the 50s & 60s when I lived in the NY suburbs I only remember the Staten Island ferries to Manhattan and Brooklyn.  I think the Brooklyn ferry went away after the Verrizano Narrows bridge was built.  I think the Hudson Tubes replaced any NJ ferries.  When I visited in the early 2000s, I took NJT into Hoboken, expecting to take the tube to Manhattan.  However, when I saw the ferry, it seemed like a better option on a nice summer day.  The new ferries are smaller boats, unlike the big old ferries.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:50 AM

Thanks for the update.   Rode the ferry to-and-from Hoboken many times.

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