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<p>[quote user="narig01"]</p> <p>BRT does not get a lot of oversight. The biggest disadvantage is that you can not increase the capacity in relation to available manpower like you can with MU'ing streetcars with rail.</p> <p> The line I would cite as a major success in the late 70's was San Diego's San Ysidro line. It was a major embarrassment to USDOT. Not because it was built under budget, opened early, got 115% of its operating revenue from the fare box. But because it did all this without any federal funding.</p> <p> San Francisco Muni is very happy with their rail fleet because of its crush capacity. Also San Francisco gets it's power from a city owned Hetch Hetchy dam. Numerous times Muni has been quite glad to not have to pay unpredictable prices for diesel fuel. In addition to it's rail fleet Muni also has an extensive electric bus fleet. In addition Muni does not like having to use large(articulated) buses due to the fuel expense(in addition to some oddball engines). </p> <p> Muni concluded a long time ago that BRT that was used is Los Angeles at the time was not the way to go. They also had a very good idea of the cost.</p> <p> I am not sure about Seattle's experience but I would note that they do not run diesel buses thru their tunnel's only electric.</p> <p> I would also point out that Los Angeles MTA has converted much of their BRT to rail and I think Salt Lake City did the same.</p> <p>Rgds IGN [/quote]</p> <p>According to the San Diego Transit Fact Sheet, the current fare-box recovery for the trolleys is approximately 55 per cent. That is better than anything that I have seen for any other transit system.</p> <p>I was in Seattle just before Thanksgiving. I popped down to the transit tunnel, which is unique. The tunnel was hoisting light rail vehicles and fossil fueled buses. I am not sure whether they were diesel or natural gas. I did not seen any trolly buses in the tunnel. </p>
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