There's been debate between several of us on this forum in the past on how much was recycled from 1st generation Geeps for CPR's fleet of GP20C-ECO's.
Greg McDonnell's second edition of 'Locomotives' repeats what's been discussed earlier in this thread about the truck frames and air compressors being reused, but also says that the main generators and traction motors were refurbished and incorporated into the new ECO units.
So Canadian Railway Observations quite possibly wasn't entirely accurate here, with the greater total of recycled components incorporated into them helping explain why these were able to qualify as rebuilt power even though in reality they're brand new locomotives.
Leo_Ames The sole possible exception is the Coast Guard. But I'm not sure if it's setup like it is in the US and I've never heard of the Canadian Coast Guard having been involved with the War in the Atlantic like ours was. So perhaps it doesn't have a significant link to the Canadian military.
The sole possible exception is the Coast Guard. But I'm not sure if it's setup like it is in the US and I've never heard of the Canadian Coast Guard having been involved with the War in the Atlantic like ours was. So perhaps it doesn't have a significant link to the Canadian military.
The modern Canadian Coast Guard was formed in 1962. Before then the duties it currently performs were split among the Navy, RCMP, the Department of Marine and Fisheries, and the Department of Railways and Canals.
As such our Coast Guard has not been involved in any wars. This is not to diminish the fact that its officers perform dangerous and heroic duties in very hazardous conditions.
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M636CWhile 6644 identifies a day, 1118 only identifies the month and 111118 is probably too hard...
You do the best you can in the confines you have to work in.
And I was envisioning some context on such a locomotive, including having the date of the Armistice prominently displayed. So I suspect many would see the connection. :)
But even without a #1118, I'm still surprised there's not one specifically for Remembrance Day. But perhaps it was viewed as superfluous with all of Canada's military branches being honored already with this set and the date these were unveiled.
Leo_Ames Thanks, that didn't take long to get some explanations. :) I'm surprised there's not an 1118 here, considering what today is an anniversary of.
Thanks, that didn't take long to get some explanations. :)
I'm surprised there's not an 1118 here, considering what today is an anniversary of.
While 6644 identifies a day, 1118 only identifies the month and 111118 is probably too hard...
I could easily identify what 6644 represented and also 7020 and 7021, but 7022 and 7023 seemed to be a complete mystery until I saw the explanation, even though I knew they had to be Air Force and Navy (if you can use those terms in Canada...)
I was even involved in the purchase of the RAAF F-18s (some of which are being sold to Canada now) and spent the last 16 years in the Royal Australian Navy...
Of course the RAAF didn't use the "side numbers" seen on CAF F-18s (only the serial number) and the italic font was unfamiliar (although I'd seen it on USN F-18s).
My excuse about the "Navy" loco was that the CAF light grey is quite unlike either the old RAN "French Grey" or the current "Haze Grey", the same as the USN, and the RAN also uses the shadowed block numbering seen on USN ships.
It seems strange to put the USA flag on 7022 and 7023, since those colours are basically Canadian, while 7020 and 7021 are standard colours familiar in the USA. They could have painted the left side of 7022 Haze Grey with USN numbering, of course...
I would have thought that 7022 might have had a full colour white ensign on it somewhere rather than the black version of the national flag.
Are Navy and Air Force Flags flown at celebrations in Canada, or only the National Flag? At the Australian War Memorial on Remembrance Day, there were four national flags (the fourth for the Army), the White Ensign and the RAAF flag, a light blue flag with the kangaroo roundel.
Peter
I'm sure that this will get its own thread with better quality photos, but in the meantime here are a few shots, and the signs explaining each paint scheme:
The paint schemes for those 5 have been unveiled.
http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/11/11-canadian-pacific-unveils-five-locomotives-honoring-canadian-armed-forces
Anyone know the significance of some of these? 6644 is obvious, but the others less so. For instance I'm guessing 7022 has some connection with the Royal Canadian Navy judging by the font of the number on the long hood (If so, the gray paint is obvious and the red paint perhaps is taken from the anti-fouling paint below the waterline?).
Miningman, I am glad to do it. It is actually a way to wind down. I too am still working. 60-70 hours per week is the norm.
Plus I like those Dreadnoughts and I hope the whole fleet including the remaining UP locomotives gets rebuilt. Now that the DDA40X units are retired other than 6936, and with the exception of 6396 and 4014, I believe these may be the biggest locomotives on the rails.
Thanks kgbw49 for passing these photos along. Great stuff for those of us still working and time is at a premium.
Solo leader:
https://railpictures.net/photo/714689/
https://railpictures.net/photo/714690/
On the move:
https://railpictures.net/photo/714646/
Here, there, and everywhere:
https://railpictures.net/photo/714677/
Thanks for the tribute and the nod Overmod.. greatly appreciated.
CSSHEGEWISCHI would hope that CP 6644 will carry the name "Juno Beach".
https://www.junobeach.org/infographics/
I would hope that CP 6644 will carry the name "Juno Beach".
What is interesting is that CP must have some confidence that these SD70ACUs will be solid performers as they are putting such hefty publicity eggs in this basket. That would seem to be good news on the surface.
I am thinking with the colors of the running gear there just might be an early Soo Line unit and a MILW unit in there with the first responders and military.
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/710989/
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/476662/
Tarped units are 7020-7023 and 6644.
As has been noted on Facebook and other forums 6644 = 6-6-44 = June 6, 1944 = D-Day.
Between that and the olive green paint on 7020 I'm thinking these are military and possibly first responder appeciation units.
To fuel the speculation mill, four of the units were released under tarps, each with different colored truck and fuel tank paint:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/60379445@N05/48968824036/in/dateposted/
The paint on the trains rolls mainly on the plains.
Just "loverly"!
Overmod CMStPnP Maybe we can again see a Milwaukee Road Heritage Locomotive properly done in Orange and Black. There's a C630 on DeviantArt done in sample orange and black; a 'heritage' unit like it might be remarkably easy to produce and maintain... and I for one would certainly like to see one of the large EMDs get the treatment! Of course, I think a 'better' case could probably be made to apply a heritage scheme to more 'heritage-accurate' power ... but, still... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaB9yXaqmXQ
CMStPnP Maybe we can again see a Milwaukee Road Heritage Locomotive properly done in Orange and Black.
There's a C630 on DeviantArt done in sample orange and black; a 'heritage' unit like it might be remarkably easy to produce and maintain... and I for one would certainly like to see one of the large EMDs get the treatment!
Of course, I think a 'better' case could probably be made to apply a heritage scheme to more 'heritage-accurate' power ... but, still...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaB9yXaqmXQ
Milwaukee Road would only be one example. Others to be included would be SOO, D&H, DSS&A and possibly others.
Let's just be grateful that Canadian Pacific has a small fleet of Heritage power in the first place.
CMStPnPMaybe we can again see a Milwaukee Road Heritage Locomotive properly done in Orange and Black.
CP has been discussing the Heritage Paint Scheme program internally for several years. I just hope that some day it extends to it's merged railroads such as it did for NS. Maybe we can again see a Milwaukee Road Heritage Locomotive properly done in Orange and Black.
Good to see these large units out on the high iron again:
https://railpictures.net/photo/714436/
https://railpictures.net/photo/714437/
https://railpictures.net/photo/714438/
https://railpictures.net/photo/714439/
https://railpictures.net/photo/714440/
https://railpictures.net/photo/714443/
Back on the high iron earning its keep:
https://railpictures.net/photo/714141/
Two heritage-painted SD70ACUs earning their keep:
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/713528/
...and looking down from the Great Interlocking Tower in the Sky, David P. Morgan smiled, shook his head approvingly, and said, "Well done, Overmod. Well done indeed."
Reminds me of Thoreau, every time I see one of these:
" ... it seems the earth had got a race now worthy to inhabit it"
SD70ACU dwarfing FP7s on an office car special:
https://railpictures.net/photo/713236/
https://railpictures.net/photo/713265/
Dreadnought on the move:
https://railpictures.net/photo/713022/
The first two SD70ACU Heritage locomotives at Bensenville Yard;
https://railpictures.net/photo/712451/
https://railpictures.net/photo/712489/
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