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A Big IF....CSX Heritage unit schemes

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, September 24, 2012 8:13 PM

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zugmann

For CSX to do something like this, they would need to do it in such a way to go above and beyond NS. 

UP did their heritage engines.

Then Amtrak did heritage engines - going one step further and using the old paint schemes.

Then NS did the old paint schemes - but went a step further and did 20 of them. And they had a giant public gathering.  To be fair - Amtrak had a small gathering of theirs at WUS, but it wasn't as newsworthy.

So now - what can CSX do to top that, and not look like a pale imitator? 

CSX could do the same as NS, and just use as many passenger paint schemes as possible, since they were likely more flashy than any of the freight schemes.  Then they could have the engines perform as many office car specials as possible until they are pulled for freight service.

They may also consider using engines other than the ES44AC and SD70ACe, and use some AC6000CW units, as Lionel did when making some "what-if" units for their product line.

CSX has designated Office Car engines that are not used in general freight service.  They are former Amtrak engines.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, September 24, 2012 7:38 PM

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Ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.

Many said the same thing in regards to a NS heritage program a few years ago.

Never say never on (or about) the railroad.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Monday, September 24, 2012 6:33 PM

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How does CSX top NS?  Just like this: after painting the units in the "Heritage" schemes they run a locomotive cavalcade, say from Fredericksburg to Richmond on the old RF&P  (I forgot THAT paint scheme, it was classic!)  terminating at the Science Museum of Virginia (the old RF&P station on West Broad Street)  WITH Ross Rowlands 4-8-4 #614 in the lead.  Now THAT would get people's attention!

Ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.

It would be epic though. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Monday, September 24, 2012 5:29 PM

How does CSX top NS?  Just like this: after painting the units in the "Heritage" schemes they run a locomotive cavalcade, say from Fredericksburg to Richmond on the old RF&P  (I forgot THAT paint scheme, it was classic!)  terminating at the Science Museum of Virginia (the old RF&P station on West Broad Street)  WITH Ross Rowlands 4-8-4 #614 in the lead.  Now THAT would get people's attention!

Ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.

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Posted by episette on Monday, September 24, 2012 5:29 PM

If CSX decides to repaint some of the AC6000CW locomotives then why wouldn't it just repaint a pair of former Conrail SD80MACs in their original baby blue Conrail paint schemes?

 

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Monday, September 24, 2012 6:21 AM

zugmann

For CSX to do something like this, they would need to do it in such a way to go above and beyond NS. 

UP did their heritage engines.

Then Amtrak did heritage engines - going one step further and using the old paint schemes.

Then NS did the old paint schemes - but went a step further and did 20 of them. And they had a giant public gathering.  To be fair - Amtrak had a small gathering of theirs at WUS, but it wasn't as newsworthy.

So now - what can CSX do to top that, and not look like a pale imitator? 

CSX could do the same as NS, and just use as many passenger paint schemes as possible, since they were likely more flashy than any of the freight schemes.  Then they could have the engines perform as many office car specials as possible until they are pulled for freight service.

They may also consider using engines other than the ES44AC and SD70ACe, and use some AC6000CW units, as Lionel did when making some "what-if" units for their product line.

The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.

-Jake, modeling the Barclay, Towanda & Susquehanna.

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:22 PM

For CSX to do something like this, they would need to do it in such a way to go above and beyond NS. 

UP did their heritage engines.

Then Amtrak did heritage engines - going one step further and using the old paint schemes.

Then NS did the old paint schemes - but went a step further and did 20 of them. And they had a giant public gathering.  To be fair - Amtrak had a small gathering of theirs at WUS, but it wasn't as newsworthy.

So now - what can CSX do to top that, and not look like a pale imitator? 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:50 PM

ACL definately, that purple paint scheme was classic.  Also the B&O  "Royal Blue" livery.  We'd have to include the C&O paint scheme, and the old Western Maryland was very dramatic indeed. 

I can't see it happening anytime soon, but it's fun to speculate.  And looking at how the NS  "Heritage" paint jobs turned out I'm amazed at how well paint schemes from the 40's work so well on modern diesel units.  The designers back then really knew their stuff, didn't they?

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Posted by DavidBriel on Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:30 PM

How about a WESTERN & ATLANTIC DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE painted in the same colors as the GENERAL STEAM LOCOMOTIVE on display in KENNESAW, GEORGIA. The W&A is leased to CSX by the state of Georgia.

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Posted by LensCapOn on Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:08 AM

What!  No "Worms in Love"?? It's almost as if you're Trying to forget about the Penn Central (the US Rail version of the Hindenburg).

 

I think I still have a bottle of flowquil PC Green somewhere, unless it's a green brick in a bottle now.

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Posted by episette on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:30 AM

B&O, Conrail, Chessie Sytem, Family Lines.

 

If they decide to do all of the pre-Conrail rail lines then there are another 5-6 units.  

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Posted by AMTRAKKER on Monday, September 17, 2012 8:08 PM

I vote for the Chessie unit as well.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Monday, September 17, 2012 7:34 PM

Good one, maybe a Western Maryland? Fireball?

The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.

-Jake, modeling the Barclay, Towanda & Susquehanna.

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Posted by baberuth73 on Monday, September 17, 2012 6:40 PM

How about a Chessie unit?

 

 

 

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A Big IF....CSX Heritage unit schemes
Posted by HighIron_fan on Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:56 PM

Allright here's the question...Wich predessors colors and secondly wich units?

My vote would be the ACes but the founding roads could be harder.

ACL seperate? ACL/SBD merger?

C&O deffinate as would B&O. L&N also. Would you have a Clinchfield unit?

I don't think I would waste paint on a PC unit,just NYC. Would/should there be a conrail blue?

Let's hear the debate.

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