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Posted by BigJim on Sunday, August 26, 2007 3:39 PM
The stack is on the OTHER end.

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Posted by CPRail modeler on Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:57 AM
 gamcgee wrote:

I've noticed quite a few locomotives from several different roads have this kind of paint damage.  Is this caused by turbo failure?  Seems to be quite common.  Sure ruins the paint job.

Here's a photo I took today.

 

 

Really? I always thought it was caused by stack fires due to poor internal planning. This problem is more common with GE roadswitchers, mainly the U-boat series and some AC4400CW's (unsure about AC6000CW's). Usually the hood section would need repainting which means one end could be a different shade than the other. Some Class-1 railroads repaint the entire locomotive which is costly ($5000 per loco?).

Of course, it is interesting to see.

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Posted by gamcgee on Friday, August 24, 2007 2:43 AM

That make sense.  Thank you for the explanation.

 clash wrote:

Most locomotives you see with this kind of fire damage is on G.E. locomotives. G.E.s have external fuel lines going to the injector pumps on each cylinder. The fuel in these lines is under 50-80 lbs of pressure. A leak in any of these lines sprays fuel up and around the hot exhaust manifold and ignites. They look pretty bad coming into the shop but we just replace the damaged parts and get them back out on the road without repainting them.                           If you see an EMD locomotive with the paint burned off ike that, Its usually caused by an oil fire or a bad exhaust leak since most of the fuel lines are inside the engine and any leaking fuel is just drains into the crankcase. This will dilute the oil but oil sampling and analysis will pick it up.                           

 

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Posted by clash on Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:27 PM

Most locomotives you see with this kind of fire damage is on G.E. locomotives. G.E.s have external fuel lines going to the injector pumps on each cylinder. The fuel in these lines is under 50-80 lbs of pressure. A leak in any of these lines sprays fuel up and around the hot exhaust manifold and ignites. They look pretty bad coming into the shop but we just replace the damaged parts and get them back out on the road without repainting them.                           If you see an EMD locomotive with the paint burned off ike that, Its usually caused by an oil fire or a bad exhaust leak since most of the fuel lines are inside the engine and any leaking fuel is just drains into the crankcase. This will dilute the oil but oil sampling and analysis will pick it up.                           

 

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Posted by dldance on Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:48 PM

If that photo has been a UP engine I would have suggested flamers from this forum;)

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:34 PM
Bad power assemblys, injector pumps, engine timing and or adjustments. The airboxes are light aluminum and the seals are rubber O rings, it doesn't take much to melt them off .
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Posted by silicon212 on Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 AM
So, what is it about the GE design that causes this?  It's not an uncommon sight.
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Posted by Randy Stahl on Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:44 AM
Airbox fire
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Posted by BigJim on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:20 PM
Nope, turbo is on the other end. That's the alternator end.

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Turbo Failure?
Posted by gamcgee on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:12 PM

I've noticed quite a few locomotives from several different roads have this kind of paint damage.  Is this caused by turbo failure?  Seems to be quite common.  Sure ruins the paint job.

Here's a photo I took today.

 

 

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