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Posted by ORNHOO on Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:16 PM

The cable channel COMET has been celebrating Ray Bradbury's 100th birthday with a marathon of Ray Bradbury Theater episodes including this one where Jeff Goldblum rides a VIA RDC to the town of Erehwon (Canadian for the exact opposite of Willoughby): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhm0Q618gM

 

(And keep a lookout for Ward Kimball as the stationmaster)

 

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Posted by ORNHOO on Saturday, August 22, 2020 5:36 PM

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But here's a question- did the Red Car have any underground stations?

At least one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subway_Terminal_Building

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, August 22, 2020 11:47 AM

Well, the movie was from RKO studios which obviously didn't have the money that MGM had. This was mostly an indoor movie and the few exterior shots were a set that I've seen in many films and was a kind of generic "city" that could be anyplace. 

But here's a question- did the Red Car have any underground stations? I assume it may have been shot in a tunnel with a fake station set up. 

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, August 22, 2020 11:04 AM

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Film making budgets are tyrannical things.  If you can't afford to film a New York story in New York you do the best you can and hope no-one notices. 

Particularly tyrannical for B pictures even with famous directors ... perhaps especially with famous directors and famous 'talent' that has to be well-paid out of that tyrannically-limited budget...

This is of a piece with the 'they won't notice' artifacts of the first films shot with true portable cameras and faster film stock 'on location' in actual trains in the '50s.  As with many SMPTE wonder technologies this could lead to results like random boxcars moving in randomly opposite directions in the background of sequential frames in two-shots, an instant distraction even for many non-foamers...

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, August 22, 2020 9:29 AM

Film making budgets are tyrannical things.  If you can't afford to film a New York story in New York you do the best you can and hope no-one notices.  

One of the best newspaper / New York story films, if not THE best, is "Deadline U.S.A," filmed in 1952 and starring Humphrey Bogart.  A lot of the movie was shot at the New York Daily News building and printing plant so it's got a great deal of authenticity to it.  A great "Film Noir" worth watching.

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Posted by 54light15 on Friday, August 21, 2020 9:43 PM

I just watched a great film noir, "While The City Sleeps" directed by Fritz Lang from 1956. It's a newspaper movie (and I love those) set in New York and there is a scene where the hero is chasing the bad guy into the subway and whatta you know, no third rail but trolley wires and Los Angeles Red Cars are running on the tracks! In New York! I'm pretty sure one of the 55 Ford police cars had a California plate. Well worth seeing and what a cast; Dana Andrews, Vincent Price, Ida Lupino, Thomas Mitchell, George Sanders and Howard Duff. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, August 6, 2020 1:25 PM

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Seemed especially relevant, for some reason.

Of course!  Times change, human nature doesn't. 

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, August 6, 2020 1:12 PM

Yesterday I watched an episode of Gunsmoke  titled "Death train".

Centered upon the quarantine of a rail passenger car containing diseased occupants, and the tug of war hysteria played out through the town residents and their polarized positions.

Seemed especially relevant, for some reason.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, August 6, 2020 8:09 AM

Holy smoke, I'd forgotten all about Lee Marvin and the Lionels, it's been that long since i've seen the film!  

I see he got right down to track level so he could watch the train coming at him!  Just like I do!

Thanks York!  

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Posted by pennytrains on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 7:09 PM

It makes the rounds on this channel: https://moviestvnetwork.com/.  I get it as an add-on to a local station that broadcasts free tv over the air.  Y'all remember rabbit ears?  Wink

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 4:53 PM

The trouble is that Donovan's Reef is one of those films that is almost never on TV anymore.

I'm not sure if someone owns the rights to it and won't let it get shown, or if networks just don't think anyone cares.

If someone has already posted this, I apologize.  I haven't read through all the posts.

Here's Lee Marvin running the train on the bar:

 

My wife and I love that movie.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 4:28 PM

54light15

Here's a bit of John Ford trivia- his yacht was named the Araner and you see it in his later film, "Donovan's Reef." 

 

Cool!  The next time "Donovan's Reef" is on, a VERY funny movie by the way, I'll keep an eye out for it!

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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:45 PM

Here's a bit of John Ford trivia- his yacht was named the Araner and you see it in his later film, "Donovan's Reef." 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:03 PM

County Mayo?  Isn't that interesting!  My grandfather, that is my mother's father, was born in the Aran Islands but grew up in County Mayo, howver I don't know just where.  

Ever hear that old saying from the Aran Islands fishermen about the sea?  Goes like this...

"A man who isn't afraid of the sea will soon be drownded, because he'll be going out on a day when he shouldn't.  But here we are afraid of the sea!  So we only get drownded only now and then."  

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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:50 PM

Flintlock- I had guessed that "The Quiet Man" was set in the 1920s since the only automobile seen in it is a 1920s Morris tourer. A friend of mine has been to the town where it was filmed, at Cong in County Mayo. He said it looks much the same today as it did when the movie was made but is much more of a tourist attraction. 

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Posted by ORNHOO on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:36 PM

For more mid-fifties Irish railroading may I suggest the "a minute's wait" segment of "The Rising of the Moon"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMTEOvs8VLQ

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v-tXIVAUaXEBg

 

 

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:17 AM

More of a newer classic - but I always liked the Conrail scenes around Baltimore (I believe Consol - been a while since I watched it) in "Enemy of the State".  

  

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:28 AM

54light15

I just watched the classic John Ford movie, "The Quiet Man." There are scenes set in a rail station with a steam locomotive and you get a good look into the cab and there are short passenger cars with doors down the side. These also look to have a middle axle in the centre of each, similar to what ran in Germany. I think the film is set in the 1920s, but the railway logo on the coaches look a little more modern than from that era. Great flick! 

 

"The Quiet Man" is set in contemporary (for the time) Ireland, so you're looking at Irish rail equipment as it was around 1952. 

I just love the locomotive though, it looks like a storybook engine!  Have a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJpoh1uYMYU  

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, August 3, 2020 10:34 PM

I just watched the classic John Ford movie, "The Quiet Man." There are scenes set in a rail station with a steam locomotive and you get a good look into the cab and there are short passenger cars with doors down the side. These also look to have a middle axle in the centre of each, similar to what ran in Germany. I think the film is set in the 1920s, but the railway logo on the coaches look a little more modern than from that era. Great flick! 

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Posted by 54light15 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:29 PM

"This will put hair on your chest."

"No fair guessing!" 

 

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:02 PM

I know it has been mentioned several times, but last night Turner Classic Movies showed "Some Like It Hot" again.  It's got great scenes on the train with Jack Lemmon and Marilyn Monroe in a sleeping car.  A great Billy Wilder movie from 1959.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:55 AM

54light15

There were various steam powered trains in the Maigret series with Michael Gambon. Filmed in Romania, I think. 

 

And in the long-running French Maigret,  played by Bruno Cremer, filmed in France and Belgium. 

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Posted by 54light15 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:01 AM

There were various steam powered trains in the Maigret series with Michael Gambon. Filmed in Romania, I think. 

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Posted by M636C on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 6:53 PM

kenny dorham

 

 
charlie hebdo

In the French TV series "Maigret" one episode entitled  'First Class Murder' takes place entirely on a halted train and station (a restored 1940s steam-powered train).

 

 

 

What did you think of that series.?
My wife has been wondering about it.
Thank You

 

If you are referring to the recent series with Rowan Atkinson as Maigret, I 've found it to be really good (although I haven't seen the episode mentioned).

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Posted by M636C on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 6:49 PM

ORNHOO

When this thread was first started two scenes came to mind, but I avoided posting them because the involvement of trains was tangential at best. Recent posts would make it seem that is not a valid concern, so:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp2UhFQQb_k

and:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRSzrKjYJQ

 

I thought there was a helicopter scene in Red Shoes following a 141R on The Blue Train along the coast approaching Nice. I haven't seen it in TV versions, and suspect it was cut...

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Posted by kenny dorham on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 6:20 PM

charlie hebdo

In the French TV series "Maigret" one episode entitled  'First Class Murder' takes place entirely on a halted train and station (a restored 1940s steam-powered train).

 

What did you think of that series.?
My wife has been wondering about it.
Thank You

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Posted by ORNHOO on Monday, July 27, 2020 10:34 AM

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ere's a very good possibility Paul Mantz or Frank Tallman did the "Wings of Eagles" flying,

According to IMDB it was Paul Mantz

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, July 27, 2020 10:25 AM

There's a very good possibility Paul Mantz or Frank Tallman did the "Wings of Eagles" flying, in the post-war years they were the go-to guys for movie flying where Hollywood was concerned.

Speaking of no CGI, how about this classic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnm351D9wkE  

Ornhoo, don't worry about what you post here.  There's some threads on this Forum that are so out of control, disgustingly so, that I don't think it matters anymore.

It's getting to the point they might as well change "General Discussion" to "General Disgustion."

Great clip from "The Red Shoes!"  

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, July 27, 2020 9:23 AM

I wonder who did the actual flying in  "The Wings of Eagles?" I assume either Frank Tallman or Paul Mantz. It's not the greatest John Ford movie ( I much prefer the westerns) but Ward Bond does a great performance as John Ford. That scene cracked me up! 

One flying film that was highly under-rated back in the day was "Darling Lili" and no CGI there either. 

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Posted by ORNHOO on Monday, July 27, 2020 9:19 AM

When this thread was first started two scenes came to mind, but I avoided posting them because the involvement of trains was tangential at best. Recent posts would make it seem that is not a valid concern, so:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp2UhFQQb_k

and:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRSzrKjYJQ

 

 

 

 

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